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Post by 76bar on Nov 30, 2019 11:08:35 GMT -6
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Dec 3, 2019 14:27:17 GMT -6
Monday I separated the calves to wean them and part of that is a vet visit. We have two in town. One is small animal and the other is a combination. I got everything penned and started calling around to see who would take them. Nada from anywhere close by. Everything was booked and said there's no way. One even told me they were booked until the middle of next week. Closest vet I found was in Sulphur Springs some 45 miles away and the lady was kind enough to squeeze me in. Seems like the small animals are more profitable and everyone is loading up the day with them. The good thing about it was my bill was a third of what my guy would have charged. You might get some? www.ttuvetmed.com/I've heard that the new school is supposed to be large animal oriented, but I dont know what that actually is supposed to mean. Oklahoma has tried to select for kids wanting to work in the large Animal industry, but that only lasts until it comes time to collect a paycheck. What has to change first is the commodity market. When the producer and feedyard guys are killing themselves to break even, there isnt money to be diverted to vet bills. Packers turn twice or more profit in the time it takes to unload a truck, process the calf and load it back on a refrigerated trailer. There's more financial incentive for a butcher than there is for a veterinarian in the industry. And packers can hire a plant full of illegals that didn't have to spend 8 years in school and a couple hundred thousand in debt. When commodity prices get unhinged from manipulation, and they are severely manipulated, you'll see kids get back into the large animal practice. Producers will have incentive and ability to support them. A bunch go into the schools they have now, but those school loans aren't going to pay themselves.
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Post by hughespieds on Dec 4, 2019 10:30:17 GMT -6
Monday I separated the calves to wean them and part of that is a vet visit. We have two in town. One is small animal and the other is a combination. I got everything penned and started calling around to see who would take them. Nada from anywhere close by. Everything was booked and said there's no way. One even told me they were booked until the middle of next week. Closest vet I found was in Sulphur Springs some 45 miles away and the lady was kind enough to squeeze me in. Seems like the small animals are more profitable and everyone is loading up the day with them. The good thing about it was my bill was a third of what my guy would have charged. You might get some? www.ttuvetmed.com/I've heard that the new school is supposed to be large animal oriented, but I dont know what that actually is supposed to mean. Oklahoma has tried to select for kids wanting to work in the large Animal industry, but that only lasts until it comes time to collect a paycheck. What has to change first is the commodity market. When the producer and feedyard guys are killing themselves to break even, there isnt money to be diverted to vet bills. Packers turn twice or more profit in the time it takes to unload a truck, process the calf and load it back on a refrigerated trailer. There's more financial incentive for a butcher than there is for a veterinarian in the industry. And packers can hire a plant full of illegals that didn't have to spend 8 years in school and a couple hundred thousand in debt. When commodity prices get unhinged from manipulation, and they are severely manipulated, you'll see kids get back into the large animal practice. Producers will have incentive and ability to support them. A bunch go into the schools they have now, but those school loans aren't going to pay themselves. A new school would be great, only it's going to be to late for my area with the residential growth we are experiencing.
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Post by dave on Dec 4, 2019 16:59:00 GMT -6
Had the pup spayed last week. It cost over $150. Between me and the neighbor we have over 100 heifers we want to spayed. We were quoted $20 a head and that is too much.
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Post by tcranch on Dec 4, 2019 17:54:35 GMT -6
Had the pup spayed last week. It cost over $150. Between me and the neighbor we have over 100 heifers we want to spayed. We were quoted $20 a head and that is too much. What? Educate me. I've never heard of heifers getting spayed. Although I did have a neighbor that said he always added something in the feed that would keep heifers from cycling (he had stockers). Have no clue what it was or how it worked. I'm intrigued.
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Post by okie on Dec 4, 2019 18:21:35 GMT -6
Had the pup spayed last week. It cost over $150. Between me and the neighbor we have over 100 heifers we want to spayed. We were quoted $20 a head and that is too much. It should cost around $5 per head! That's insane!
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Post by okie on Dec 4, 2019 18:26:53 GMT -6
Had the pup spayed last week. It cost over $150. Between me and the neighbor we have over 100 heifers we want to spayed. We were quoted $20 a head and that is too much. What? Educate me. I've never heard of heifers getting spayed. Although I did have a neighbor that said he always added something in the feed that would keep heifers from cycling (he had stockers). Have no clue what it was or how it worked. I'm intrigued. MGA in the feed is probably a better choice for keeping heifers open but they can be spayed. There is a tool that they poke through the vaginal wall and cut out the ovaries, very similar to castration.
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Post by dave on Dec 4, 2019 18:58:59 GMT -6
Had the pup spayed last week. It cost over $150. Between me and the neighbor we have over 100 heifers we want to spayed. We were quoted $20 a head and that is too much. What? Educate me. I've never heard of heifers getting spayed. Although I did have a neighbor that said he always added something in the feed that would keep heifers from cycling (he had stockers). Have no clue what it was or how it worked. I'm intrigued. Probably 200 assorted steers and heifers will be running together on range land in the spring and early summer. Out on range so something in the feed won't work. Spayed heifers don't come in heat and have 30 steers following her all day. Both the heifers and the steers will gain more Also fences out there being more of a suggestion than a barrier you can almost bet a bull will find them. A lot easier to guarantee a spayed heifer to be open when selling to a feedlot. I have never been around it when done so I will bow to Okie's superior knowledge.
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Post by angusrancher on Dec 4, 2019 20:44:43 GMT -6
Seems like our luck has also been that if you implant the spayed heifers and steers running together, that they will ride some....a lot. Maybe a fluke, but happened 2 years in a row, and with no implants all was good. Gain was better without.
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Post by dave on Dec 4, 2019 21:14:19 GMT -6
Seems like our luck has also been that if you implant the spayed heifers and steers running together, that they will ride some....a lot. Maybe a fluke, but happened 2 years in a row, and with no implants all was good. Gain was better without. I don't think implanting is in the plan. Simplot runs a big feedlot near here. They are big on all natural feeders. One of the three of us in on this deal use to work for them. So selling directly to them is one of the marketing possibilities.
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Post by tcranch on Dec 5, 2019 7:06:42 GMT -6
What? Educate me. I've never heard of heifers getting spayed. Although I did have a neighbor that said he always added something in the feed that would keep heifers from cycling (he had stockers). Have no clue what it was or how it worked. I'm intrigued. MGA in the feed is probably a better choice for keeping heifers open but they can be spayed. There is a tool that they poke through the vaginal wall and cut out the ovaries, very similar to castration. Thank you, very interesting!
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