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Post by silverback on Jan 6, 2020 14:06:02 GMT -6
I have narrowed my next rifle purchase down to .308 (although the 6.5 CM is still intriguing). Am trying to decide between Winchester m70 extreme weather or Remington 700 Mountain LSS. Both price points are close. Leaning toward the Winchester now.
In optics, I have been looking at Burris Eliminator 3 and Sig Sauer BDX combo. Both look like A LOT of FUN at greater distances. Considerations appreciated.
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Post by brightraven on Jan 6, 2020 14:50:21 GMT -6
I have never been a fan of the .308. It seems like a lot of bore to cartridge capacity. If I am going to go to a .308 diameter projectile, I am going to go on up to the magnums. I currently have a Browning A-Bolt in 300 Win Mag. I have used it on elk and african plains game. I would rather have a more streamlined bullet for the size game we have here in the eastern United States.
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Post by highgrit on Jan 6, 2020 20:54:23 GMT -6
Remington 700 without question is cheaper and easier to hotrod. The 6.5 PRC has my attention.
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Post by jehosofat on Jan 6, 2020 21:00:53 GMT -6
Remington for sure, the aftermarket parts to customize the 700 can't be touched by any other rifle. 308 is a fine cartridge, ammo is cheap, available any where, so many things you can do with the 308, plus you stay in a short action.
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Post by silverback on Jan 6, 2020 23:36:23 GMT -6
That 6.5 PRC looks great. Reviews are positive. Maybe a Remington 700 Mountain 22" barrel in 6.5 and run PRC through it for $950... or Remington 700 5-R Gen 2 with 24" barrel for $922. Both have SS barrels and Syn stocks.
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Post by smokinm on Jan 7, 2020 1:08:17 GMT -6
I will also pile on in the Remington 700 group. To be fair I have pretty limited experience with Winchester bolt guns but have a ton of 700s and am pleased with all of them. I like a .308 a lot for all the reasons above. You can make it as hot rod as any of the others if you handload or shoot it for cheap if you just want to play and it will perform either way. A lot better bullet selection too. All those snipers cant be wrong and for most that is their go to round unless they really expect to be stepping out to 800 plus yds.
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Post by simangking on Jan 7, 2020 9:23:49 GMT -6
I wouldn't over look a savage rifle. If it wasn't for customization the modern Rem. are pretty cheaply made rifles. Find a lightly used older Rem. 700, and you've got something there.
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Post by silverback on Jan 7, 2020 16:07:25 GMT -6
Ok, so half then fun is looking right? So hear me out on this one. Bergara B14 Ridge in 6.5cm for $750. It accepts virtually all the accessories for the Rem 700 and is reviewed consistently as a very accurate, well made gun. I was looking at more expensive rifles initially, but the more I research, the more I discover that its awfully hard to beat the Remingtons, Savages, and similiar manufacturers for accuracy and bang for the buck. Still curious about the Tikka as well??
Still torn between .308 and 6.5cm. Most reviews show 6.5 CM is slightly ballistically superior(not by much) and is a real joy to shoot. Then I think, hell, everyone has a box of .308 laying around...
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Post by highgrit on Jan 7, 2020 20:42:32 GMT -6
Tikka makes a very nice and accurate rife. Most if not all come standard with an adjustable trigger that you can safely bring down to 2.5 lbs.
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Post by silverback on Jan 16, 2020 23:54:46 GMT -6
Sooo....
I purchased a Tikka T3X CTR in 6.5CM. 24" SS barrel. Should pick it up tomorrow. Ordered Athlon Argos 6.5-20×50 BTR scope and rings to use for now until I decide between Burris Eliminator3 or Sig
BDX combo scope systems. I wanted a SWFA in 3-9 × 42, but they're on backorder so the Argos is, allegedly, the most bang for buck available in an ffp. Can't wait to run some rounds through it and see how I like the setup. Thanks again for all the input.
The law of 3 T's 😁
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Post by 3LT Farms on Jan 17, 2020 4:56:33 GMT -6
Be sure to let us know how it does.
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Post by dave on Jan 18, 2020 8:36:47 GMT -6
I was shopping for a deer rifle for my daughter. A gun salesman was trying to sell me on a 6.5 CM. He was pushing it as a great long range caliber. So I looked up the ballistics. I was not impressed. I have a 7X57 that is my go to deer rifle anymore. It is certainly an adequate deer rifle. But I wouldn't consider it a long range rifle. The bullet leaves the barrel at 100 fps faster in the 7X57 than it does with the 6.5. I ended up buying the daughter a 7mm08.
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Post by highgrit on Jan 18, 2020 8:55:21 GMT -6
I was shopping for a deer rifle for my daughter. A gun salesman was trying to sell me on a 6.5 CM. He was pushing it as a great long range caliber. So I looked up the ballistics. I was not impressed. I have a 7X57 that is my go to deer rifle anymore. It is certainly an adequate deer rifle. But I wouldn't consider it a long range rifle. The bullet leaves the barrel at 100 fps faster in the 7X57 than it does with the 6.5. I ended up buying the daughter a 7mm08. Dave it's the VLD bullet design that supposedly makes the 6.5 CM a long range caliber. Long range doesn't start until 600 yds and I think that is past most folks comfort zone and especially so under hunting conditions. |
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Post by dave on Jan 18, 2020 19:06:46 GMT -6
I was shopping for a deer rifle for my daughter. A gun salesman was trying to sell me on a 6.5 CM. He was pushing it as a great long range caliber. So I looked up the ballistics. I was not impressed. I have a 7X57 that is my go to deer rifle anymore. It is certainly an adequate deer rifle. But I wouldn't consider it a long range rifle. The bullet leaves the barrel at 100 fps faster in the 7X57 than it does with the 6.5. I ended up buying the daughter a 7mm08. Dave it's the VLD bullet design that supposedly makes the 6.5 CM a long range caliber. Long range doesn't start until 600 yds and I think that is past most folks comfort zone and especially so under hunting conditions. I think that 600 yards is past most peoples capability. And being as a 6.5 starts out at around 2,640 fps at the barrel how much punch does it have at 600 yards. Sounds like a lot of wounded animals to me. |
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Post by silverback on Jan 18, 2020 20:15:43 GMT -6
Nosler 6.5 129gr accubond at 600 yds: 1889 fps, 1022 ft/lbs energy. Certainly enough to drop a white tail with this bullets terminal ballistics and SD. Of course, none of it matters without correct bullet placement. No one(ethically speaking) has any business taking a shot of that distance without first putting the time in at the range/behind the trigger.
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