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Post by highgrit on Mar 14, 2020 12:24:12 GMT -6
Preppers be like..."Who's laughing now?" I can grow lots of vegetables, know how to can and have done it for years up until a couple years ago, but if shit really hits the fan, it takes weeks for produce to get ready to pick. Fish are waiting in the pond and there are plenty of feral hogs, squirrels and I could kill a deer easily enough but don't know how to salt it to preserve it ..or how to smoke meat. No electricity or fuel for my genset would be hard and it's not bad right now, but after summer heat gets here it will be a lot harder. A lot of us could make it with a few months notice, I can admit that I'm not ready if the power grid went down tomorrow. At the moment I don't have enough diesel in my truck to make it home.
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Post by greybeard on Mar 14, 2020 12:56:23 GMT -6
Preppers be like..."Who's laughing now?" I can grow lots of vegetables, know how to can and have done it for years up until a couple years ago, but if shit really hits the fan, it takes weeks for produce to get ready to pick. Fish are waiting in the pond and there are plenty of feral hogs, squirrels and I could kill a deer easily enough but don't know how to salt it to preserve it ..or how to smoke meat. No electricity or fuel for my genset would be hard and it's not bad right now, but after summer heat gets here it will be a lot harder. A lot of us could make it with a few months notice, I can admit that I'm not ready if the power grid went down tomorrow. At the moment I don't have enough diesel in my truck to make it home. Somewhere, there's someone that will trade you 5 gal road diesel for a roll of toilet paper....
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Post by farmerjan on Mar 14, 2020 15:01:13 GMT -6
I could do it without starving but not very well here as it is not my house (I rent) and cannot use the chimneys for a wood stove because the landlord is afraid of fire. My biggest thing would be wanting the electric for the freezers and fridge right now. I have a wood cook stove in the storage trailer, & gas stove that uses propane. As a kid we had a real ICE BOX at the place my grandparents owned in Vt and we would get ice before we got to the cabin and managed pretty well. The stove there was propane. Have heated with wood in the past, and cooked on that stove too. I would miss a hot shower, something cold to drink, and heat in this house that is all electric and fuel oil heated; if it were to happen right now. I have more of my food stored in the freezer but most of my fruits canned. I normally grow a garden every year but last year, and can and freeze for the year. Got beef, chickens, and could get deer easily here. Would be tough without fuel for the tractors for farm work and for the trucks and gas for the car.
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Post by dave on Mar 19, 2020 22:40:11 GMT -6
I lived like that as an adult for the better part of a year. Wood heat stove, wood cook stove, hand pump on the back porch, outhouse 100 feet too close in the summer and 100 feet too far away in the winter, candles and kerosene lamps of light. The only modern thing was a propane fired frig. That was in the rain forest of the Washington coast. Ran a trap line in the middle of no where Alaska one winter. The nearest other person was 30 or 40 miles away.
Always have raised a garden and put up the produce. The wife has sewed just about every garment there is. She had a ranch a hard 2 hour drive to the nearest store. She has made lots of butter, cottage cheese, and lots of other things to avoid driving to the store. Even now she cans a lot of deer meat every year. The water to the house is from a spring. It would gravity to lower floor of the house. It just wouldn't work to the up stairs bath room. The irrigation is flood. There is plenty of water to grow 60 some acres of what ever I want to raise.
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Post by kycowboy on Mar 23, 2020 10:18:30 GMT -6
Preppers be like..."Who's laughing now?" I can grow lots of vegetables, know how to can and have done it for years up until a couple years ago, but if shit really hits the fan, it takes weeks for produce to get ready to pick. Fish are waiting in the pond and there are plenty of feral hogs, squirrels and I could kill a deer easily enough but don't know how to salt it to preserve it ..or how to smoke meat. No electricity or fuel for my genset would be hard and it's not bad right now, but after summer heat gets here it will be a lot harder. I dont know if deer meat would have enough fat to pull the salt in? I've talked about doing it for few years. It might be sugar curing that needs the fat, I'm not for sure. My dad and granddad said they use to do hogs when they were younger.
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Post by randy on Mar 24, 2020 13:16:58 GMT -6
The woods here right now is the land of plenty. Mushrooms and greens to had pretty easy. Crows foot deer tongue and several other plants that can be eat. I reckon i would get along pretty good.
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Post by randy on Mar 24, 2020 13:28:42 GMT -6
Best bet on deer meat i think is canning it, i have cured it and would again if i had to. But for keeping it long term i think canning or jerky.
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Post by highgrit on Mar 24, 2020 15:23:18 GMT -6
I've had deer jerky mold on me if I didn't freeze it. Canned deer meat is pretty dang good eating.
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Post by JMJ on Mar 25, 2020 13:40:36 GMT -6
I can eat for a while. Chickens and cows may get a little skiddish after a couple of weeks though! Panting garden now so it’ll be ready in a month or two. Hope power stays on though. I’d hate to throw away everything we have stacked in the freezer. 4 deer, quail, fish, corn, peas, and even a few steaks. Boy that’d suck! I personally think the worst thing would be fuel. But I reckon you have two choices if it gets that bad. Adapt or die.
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Post by dave on Mar 25, 2020 17:13:02 GMT -6
I knew an old trapper up in Alaska. He said in the fall he would shoot a fat bear to render out the lard. He then shot a mountain goat. He cut the goat into steaks, fried them up. He stacked the steaks in a crock pot one layer at a time. Covered the steaks with a layer of the melted lard. Another layer of steak and so on until the crock was full. All winter he would pull a steak out one at a time and fry it up. Mostly lived on goat steak and sour dough biscuits.
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Post by chuckie on Mar 25, 2020 18:59:36 GMT -6
Dave, I used to think I wanted to live in Alaska, but after reading what that man ate, I think I will remain down here in the lower 48. Bear fat and goat steaks. *gag*
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Post by ebenezer on Mar 26, 2020 5:49:12 GMT -6
Dave, I used to think I wanted to live in Alaska, but after reading what that man ate, I think I will remain down here in the lower 48. Bear fat and goat steaks. *gag* Tastes like chicken
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Post by dave on Mar 26, 2020 8:01:31 GMT -6
Dave, I used to think I wanted to live in Alaska, but after reading what that man ate, I think I will remain down here in the lower 48. Bear fat and goat steaks. *gag* That is a trapper living out in the bush. he was a little further south where it doesn't stay below freezing 100% of the time They eat better than that in town. However, those a little further north shoot a moose and hang it uncovered on a meat pole for the entire winter. Just go out and saw off a chunk of frozen moose when you need it. The Camp Robbers (a little jay sort of bird) might help them self to some of your moose meat. And they will do what birds do while sitting there. Just trim that part off.
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Post by chuckie on Mar 26, 2020 15:07:43 GMT -6
That would be the good part of living in an area that stays frozen for so long. Those little Jay Birds have it made with the moose. Looks like they could be more appreciative than to put icing on the meat!!
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Post by 76bar on Mar 26, 2020 17:14:36 GMT -6
My Servel was older than dirt. Had to stand it on its head a couple times a year to reroute the propane. Loved my antique Aladdin's & propane fueled lights, delicate persnickety wicks not so much. Firing up the monster Kohler was a rare occurrence. Still have memories of gathering around the monster radio phone yelling Car 54 are you there? Ah, the good ole days. Jeeze and to think people are having a meltdown sequestered after a week or two.
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