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Post by M-5 on Jul 14, 2019 6:01:28 GMT -6
I am hoping that this fall I can get more clover established. I try to let the red seed and dry but this spring I only had about 50% of what I planted in Fall of 17 come back.
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Post by bulltrader on Jul 14, 2019 7:14:42 GMT -6
I like Red for hay and White for grazing. The fact that the white only takes 2lb per acre and is tough makes me like it also.
Corey, in my soils getting the pH correct was the best thing for the clover. I have crimson and white in my pastures. Rotational grazing had make them come on strong.
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Post by hook on Jul 14, 2019 9:02:43 GMT -6
Is it weird that im excited to seed the clover and timothy in the field?
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Post by bulltrader on Jul 14, 2019 9:12:59 GMT -6
Timothy is a hay crop, remember that.
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Post by hook on Jul 14, 2019 9:20:46 GMT -6
It can be grazed also though if not seeded too thick
Right?
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Post by hook on Jul 14, 2019 11:39:06 GMT -6
I answered my own question. It can cause bloat in cattle if its too thick. I should just start listening to people more, and keep the timothy for hay field
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Post by 1982vett on Jul 14, 2019 13:07:09 GMT -6
I answered my own question. It can cause bloat in cattle if its too thick. I should just start listening to people more, and keep the timothy for hay field I’m of the notion the warnings about bloat are real but manageable. #1, I never turn in hungry animals in on any lush pasture no matter the type forage. #2, see number 1.... I don’t do intensive grazing programs but I do tinker with pasture rotations. But spring rolls in and clovers start growing I open up to all of it to keep it under control. I’ll close out if I want to bale a patch but won’t turn back in if I don’t bale until it is declining from maturity. Same theory with pastures with Johnson grass. Get them on it before it becomes an issue. |
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Post by hook on Jul 14, 2019 13:08:38 GMT -6
Makes sense. Thanks
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Post by bulltrader on Jul 14, 2019 14:49:27 GMT -6
I answered my own question. It can cause bloat in cattle if its too thick. I should just start listening to people more, and keep the timothy for hay field I’m of the notion the warnings about bloat are real but manageable. #1, I never turn in hungry animals in on any lush pasture no matter the type forage. #2, see number 1.... I don’t do intensive grazing programs but I do tinker with pasture rotations. But spring rolls in and clovers start growing I open up to all of it to keep it under control. I’ll close out if I want to bale a patch but won’t turn back in if I don’t bale until it is declining from maturity. Same theory with pastures with Johnson grass. Get them on it before it becomes an issue. I don't intensive graze either but rotate regular. Ever 4-6 days but I have 10 fields so it gets 45 to 60 days rest between grazing |
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Post by Jake on Jul 15, 2019 18:53:09 GMT -6
Talk to me about clover in native grasses. Have a piece that we bought that was ABUSED. We’ve light grazed and burned it and gotten a fair response from the native but we have some brine I would like to choke out along with some “go back” on a piece that was farmed. Anybody have experience with clover establishment and grazing in bluestem type pastures?
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Post by Allenw on Jul 15, 2019 21:33:12 GMT -6
Don't have much clover here but I do have some kind of vetch growing in a couple of native pastures, grows along the roads also. I don't know how much it contributes, small plant with red blooms and a small black bean with 3 or 4 seeds.
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Post by randy on Jul 22, 2019 4:14:43 GMT -6
Talk to me about clover in native grasses. Have a piece that we bought that was ABUSED. We’ve light grazed and burned it and gotten a fair response from the native but we have some brine I would like to choke out along with some “go back” on a piece that was farmed. Anybody have experience with clover establishment and grazing in bluestem type pastures? Jake i would think if you burn as early in late winter as you can you might could seed some clover in on the burn. |
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