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Post by randy on Aug 23, 2019 3:49:45 GMT -6
I'm writing from California tonight. Not to save my state. My state was lost many years ago. We, who still are Ag here, are merely fighting the skirmish battle to allow an escape, and allow information to be spread about the battle to come. We will not say it aloud, but we know we are casualties of a war we will not win.
We speak to each other quietly, in coffee shops, and dusty fields. And we speak to each other in community meetings in small towns all across this state. And we hear our words echoed back, from people just like us, who watch land go fallow, and water wasted.
Don't think we are fighting a loosing battle. We know we are done. But we are showing the rest of the nation what will happen, if you don't muster your voices today.
The greatest Ag region known, is being crippled. And the greatest people this state ever knew, are fleeing. Today, the people who crap in the streets, sleep in the gutters, and shoot drugs in small towns, have more voice than the man and woman who grow food.
Do not forget us. As I said, we talk in quiet places, where we do not fear retribution from our words. Because a politician can kill you.
Private words, never meant for others eyes, may give you a glimpse of California Ag politics in the Sacramento Capitol:
"There is a palpable feeling of hate in the building for Ag, worse than I’ve ever seen it." "It’s a scary thought and would not be easy, but I’m here to tell you that based on what I heard and saw this week, most of us simply won’t be here in a decade unless things change and the same people who have been doing it for the past 40+ years can’t or won’t do anything about it. That means our only answer is to look inward and ask ourselves how important this is to us and our families."
The above words, are from somebody who went to our capitol, once again, to fight for Ag.And they saw the enemy in power.
I'm not trying to save California. We are already lost. We are just buying time for the rest of the nation to learn from our mistakes, and to let you build a stone wall against politics that will destroy those who produce food and fibre for a nation.
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Post by randy on Aug 23, 2019 4:33:54 GMT -6
There is a war on Agriculture in this country. Environmental nuts are well organized and every where.
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Post by randy on Aug 23, 2019 4:51:28 GMT -6
www.foodbusinessnews.net/articles/14348-valley-oaks-steak-co-ceases-operationsFrom Missouri. KANSAS CITY — After a lengthy legal battle over a proposed expansion, Lone Jack, Mo.-based Valley Oaks Steak Co. announced on Aug. 19 that it would close its operations. The company said economic factors and a “constant barrage of legal battles and extensive marketing efforts needed to counter misinformation” led to the decision to shut its doors. Valley Oaks started up its beef processing plant in 2016 with plans for expansion in its second year from its initial 900 head operation. During June 2018, The Missouri Department of Natural Resources issued a permit for the company to increase the number of cattle it could maintain to 6,999 in its animal feedlot operation. However, an appeal was filed, which resulted in growing litigation along with negative publicity for the company. “Valley Oaks became a lightning rod for individuals and organizations opposed to animal agriculture operations,” the company said. “While we understand there were skeptics of our approach, Valley Oaks became a target for groups that used us to advance their own fundraising campaigns.” Valley Oaks Steak Co. sausagesA Jackson county judge (the facility is in neighboring Johnson county) recently issued a stay against Valley Oaks holding the cap at 1,000 head. On July 30, Independence, Mo.-based law firm, Humphrey, Farrington & McClain filed a lawsuit on behalf of 141 neighboring property owners, alleging the company’s operation has negatively impacted their quality of life. Operators of Powell Gardens, a nearby botanical garden, also led the opposition against the cattle expansion. Powell officials claimed in their appeal that they opposed expansion because of possible odor, water quality and plant-harming parasites that could linger from the expanded livestock facility. There are also about 800 homes within three miles of the feedlot. Valley Oaks claimed that Powell Gardens organized a misleading and fear-based campaign against the operations, added that it has been under “relentless” personal attacks. “Unfortunately, we have been stalked, threatened, and slandered,” Valley Oaks said. “Our children have been targeted, bullied and threatened. Several of our cattle were shot dead in the field, no doubt as a warning to us.” FACILITIESOPERATIONSRED MEAT Related Articles Kroger ce
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Post by randy on Aug 23, 2019 5:11:55 GMT -6
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Post by cowrancher75 on Aug 23, 2019 5:45:45 GMT -6
yes.. the media wants everyone to hate meat and farming.. believing its 'below' them. just like the immigrant mess. we are 'above' them so we MUST care for them..
people eat it up.. until they are eating pork from czech and beef from pakistan.. since they'll drive every farmer out of the US
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Post by randy on Aug 23, 2019 5:50:34 GMT -6
yes.. the media wants everyone to hate meat and farming.. believing its 'below' them. just like the immigrant mess. we are 'above' them so we MUST care for them.. people eat it up.. until they are eating pork from czech and beef from pakistan.. since they'll drive every farmer out of the US The C&H farm is maybe 8 to 10 miles as the crow flies from me. We are in the Buffalo River Watershed so its not to hard for the environmental groups to focus on this area. They are many and they have money. |
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Post by highgrit on Aug 23, 2019 6:22:00 GMT -6
Might be a good time to look into tree farming. I spent yesterday at a NRCS meeting and it was all about sustainably. I learned that a sheep has a larger carbon foot print than a cow. I tried to debate with the instructor who happened to be a vegan, but she just pointed to a few studies that said a sheep was worse than a cow for the environment. Common sense isn't very common anymore.
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Post by ebenezer on Aug 23, 2019 6:34:29 GMT -6
Might be a good time to look into tree farming. I spent yesterday at a NRCS meeting and it was all about sustainably. I learned that a sheep has a larger carbon foot print than a cow. I tried to debate with the instructor who happened to be a vegan, but she just pointed to a few studies that said a sheep was worse than a cow for the environment. Common sense isn't very common anymore. Check the ROI for trees before you blunder there. Our area is saturated with pine and it has little value compared to 13 years ago and probably will not rebound. There is too much of both logs, plylogs and pulp. Hardwood logs, a few specific species, are a once in a lifetime big sale. Other (most) species of hardwood are poorly priced for logs and bottom dollar for pulp. The advantage of timber is low labor and the chance for land to appreciate in value. Hunting leases can pay for taxes in most cases. Southern pine beetles have missed their 10 year cycle and we are heading towards 20 years right now. When they come back and make up for the lost time it will be Katie bar the door. |
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Post by M-5 on Aug 23, 2019 6:40:21 GMT -6
It has always been a war. It's just more people have a voice now with social media. It is going to be a long road with no real solutions until it's too late.
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Post by angusrancher on Aug 23, 2019 6:40:22 GMT -6
So many radicals out there who really deserve to go hungry. They're the ones who aren't sustainable. Too bad some have teaching degrees.
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Post by Allenw on Aug 23, 2019 7:14:11 GMT -6
Might be a good time to look into tree farming. I spent yesterday at a NRCS meeting and it was all about sustainably. I learned that a sheep has a larger carbon foot print than a cow. I tried to debate with the instructor who happened to be a vegan, but she just pointed to a few studies that said a sheep was worse than a cow for the environment. Common sense isn't very common anymore. Sustainability is a buzz word for agenda 21 control by the UN. We've bowed to a lot of that BS already. It isn't just limited to agriculture any time you hear sustainability look deep at what's behind it. |
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Post by okie on Aug 23, 2019 7:40:37 GMT -6
Allenw is dead on. The war is NOT on agriculture. It's on private wealth and land ownership. It makes a lot more sense when you read Agenda 21. The goal is to force private land owners out of business to equalize the population. Once everyone has moved to cities where they can be controlled then the government will step in and take over agriculture.
In the case of California, water is the main stranglehold on ag. The government has restricted water rights to the point where it is nearly impossible to farm there and the state is drying up. It's not a problem of not enough water. The water is there but they let it flow out to the ocean. I've said many times that once privately owned farms are run out of that state there will be plenty of water for agriculture. The city dwellers will have to get used to using less "for their own good". In the mean time they are building urban homes like crazy to build their tax base and concentrate populations and building mass transit to control movement while their highways crumble.
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Post by highgrit on Aug 23, 2019 8:02:00 GMT -6
Allenw is dead on. The war is NOT on agriculture. It's on private wealth and land ownership. It makes a lot more sense when you read Agenda 21. The goal is to force private land owners out of business to equalize the population. Once everyone has moved to cities where they can be controlled then the government will step in and take over agriculture. In the case of California, water is the main stranglehold on ag. The government has restricted water rights to the point where it is nearly impossible to farm there and the state is drying up. It's not a problem of not enough water. The water is there but they let it flow out to the ocean. I've said many times that once privately owned farms are run out of that state there will be plenty of water for agriculture. The city dwellers will have to get used to using less "for their own good". In the mean time they are building urban homes like crazy to build their tax base and concentrate populations and building mass transit to control movement while their highways crumble. Sustainability needs to start with population control, problem is there's no money in it. All the population models predict by 2050 there will be 9 billion people living on this earth. You think city traffic is bad now, just wait. |
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Post by randy on Aug 23, 2019 16:13:20 GMT -6
It has always been a war. It's just more people have a voice now with social media. It is going to be a long road with no real solutions until it's too late. I may have always been a war, but the environmental groups have tons of funding from somewhere. They also get plenty of government agency help. National Park Service should be disbanded and all NPS held lands should be turned over to the states they are in. |
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Post by dave on Aug 23, 2019 16:33:00 GMT -6
I see that the BLM headquarters is being moved out of DC to Grand Junction Colo. It is a start. 99% of land governed by the BLM is west of the Mississippi. The people making the rules should live in the area they are making the rules for. Certainly not the solution but it is a start.
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