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Post by 11111 on Nov 8, 2019 12:29:00 GMT -6
Had a heifer lose her calf on corn stalks last year. We assumed that she had calf early and didn't survive (would have been 4 weeks early)... so we just turned her in with a bull when we brought her home and put her in with our fall herd.
She calved again and had a nice little heifer calf. Husband worked it. 3 days later, calf is dead.
So she's in with our older girls who are getting fat and going to slaughter. She has no known carrier defects. Calf was healthy.
Is there a possibility that she has some milk toxicity or something that under-develops in her calves?
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Post by randy on Nov 8, 2019 14:17:55 GMT -6
Did you check her to see if she had milk or if the teats were blind. Had on that you couldn't get a drop of milk out of.
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Post by 11111 on Nov 8, 2019 14:54:45 GMT -6
Did you check her to see if she had milk or if the teats were blind. Had on that you couldn't get a drop of milk out of. Calf was nursing.
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Post by angusrancher on Nov 8, 2019 14:59:45 GMT -6
Unless it had gotten stepped on, that's the right move. Did you pull the hide back and look?
Our veterinarian told us years ago, that cows could carry a virus that would cause an in vitro pneumonia, with the calf dying at a few days old. We've seen that, and culled for that. I tried to search it to no avail. Usually in older cows, though.
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Post by ebenezer on Nov 8, 2019 18:52:42 GMT -6
Just because the calf was nursing does not mean she had milk. 2 to 3 days is about right on lambs to die of dehydration when a ewe has no milk. They hunch up their back as a sure sign if you can catch them in time. Once we started checking and culling ewes on udders that cleared right up. I cannot remember a cow without milk but there probably were some.
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Post by randy on Nov 8, 2019 19:32:59 GMT -6
Did you check her to see if she had milk or if the teats were blind. Had on that you couldn't get a drop of milk out of. Calf was nursing. Calf nursing don't mean a thing if it isn't getting any milk.
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Post by 11111 on Nov 9, 2019 9:05:06 GMT -6
I understand that... She had milk. Good uddered also. My thought is some sort of milk toxicity.
These cows/calves are walked through daily. There were absolutely no signs of sickness or dehydration prior to death.
I'd assume stepped on initially but this being her second calf now that we have lost, I am guessing it is the dam.
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Post by sleepy on Nov 9, 2019 18:02:41 GMT -6
I would replace her. Bad luck or not, if she breeds back and raises the third calf, she's heading towards 5 yrs. old before that calf brings a check home. I'm not very wealthy, and my mind is trained to think like that. I'd have grudge against her I believe. I'd just breed another heifer this year, one with no strikes! LOL
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Post by 11111 on Nov 10, 2019 8:40:01 GMT -6
I would replace her. Bad luck or not, if she breeds back and raises the third calf, she's heading towards 5 yrs. old before that calf brings a check home. I'm not very wealthy, and my mind is trained to think like that. I'd have grudge against her I believe. I'd just breed another heifer this year, one with no strikes! LOL Yes, she’s been culled. She went out with our other ladies who were only going to raise a calf and then hauled for slaughter.
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