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Post by cowrancher75 on Nov 13, 2019 19:12:25 GMT -6
they spread it around here.. another county comes in and does it. they have to spread it.. from the waste treatment plant.
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Post by M-5 on Nov 13, 2019 19:52:26 GMT -6
It's pumped on a hayfields in the municipality near me after going thru the treatment plant. The guy that maintains the fields bales several thousand bales a year off of it and sells it for a premium
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Post by hughespieds on Nov 13, 2019 19:54:27 GMT -6
Same here. It don't take long to sniff out the hay fields that have used it.
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Post by cowrancher75 on Nov 13, 2019 19:58:39 GMT -6
It's pumped on a hayfields in the municipality near me after going thru the treatment plant. The guy that maintains the fields bales several thousand bales a year off of it and sells it for a premium
these boys i came into contact with got a contract with a landfill.. they baled all the covered areas. really really nice hay.. they got tons of it.. i bought lots and lots. just have to watch the methane pipes i guess!
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Post by sdm on Nov 14, 2019 4:40:50 GMT -6
I wish I had enough land to make it worth their time here. Between that and the fact there's not as much available here as there used to be, I don't stand a chance.
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Post by franklinridgefarms on Nov 14, 2019 7:43:44 GMT -6
Years ago some people around here talked about doing it not sure if any actually did or not but my answer was hell no
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Post by dave on Nov 14, 2019 8:46:03 GMT -6
For 3 or 4 years bought hay that came off the fields at a sewage plant. Bought it in the field and hauled it myself. It was pretty good hay and priced right. The guy I was getting it from lost his contract and I don't know who picked it up. I sure don't want it spread on my carrots. But pumped on a hay field before the grass starts growing in the spring or after hay is done in the fall isn't a whole lot different than cow manure or chicken litter.
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Post by birddog on Nov 15, 2019 8:02:26 GMT -6
I saw it spread on an old tired rocky field that was pretty much grass free. It was mostly bare dirt, rocks and scrubby weeds. Two years later they had a pretty good stand of native grass and cattle grazing the place. I am not sure if they planted anything but I think they disced the shit in and brought the seeds. up. This was a field without any close neighbors so I guess it was a perfect spot.
I would sure give it a try on some old cotton fields where getting the nutrient level back to normal is darn near impossible.
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Post by ebenezer on Nov 15, 2019 10:13:30 GMT -6
My concern is not that it contains human waste but it also contains whatever a plant, business or individual flushed or poured out a few days ahead. If any industries are served, then there are possibilities of heavy metals and other stuff that can ruin soils for ag use for your lifetime. There have been cases proved over it. And the samples that are shown to represent your "stuff" is not anything to prove that the week before you got your sludge that a plating plant dumped a vat of heavy metals in the system. I can see hay grown on those sites being suspect, too. Thanks, but no thanks. Around here I see about a 30 day response for the applications. Seems a bit short for the risk.
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Post by cowrancher75 on Nov 15, 2019 13:59:01 GMT -6
My concern is not that it contains human waste but it also contains whatever a plant, business or individual flushed or poured out a few days ahead. If any industries are served, then there are possibilities of heavy metals and other stuff that can ruin soils for ag use for your lifetime. There have been cases proved over it. And the samples that are shown to represent your "stuff" is not anything to prove that the week before you got your sludge that a plating plant dumped a vat of heavy metals in the system. I can see hay grown on those sites being suspect, too. Thanks, but no thanks. Around here I see about a 30 day response for the applications. Seems a bit short for the risk. i was talking to a guy about it.. and a neighbor of his started having all his dairy cows die after they spread it on his neighbors field.
they really couldn't figure out what was going on but been dairying for generations and never a problem until that.
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Post by sdm on Nov 16, 2019 6:32:45 GMT -6
I worked directly with the contractors who do the applications here for 8 years. Never encountered a sick neighbor or cow. I'm not saying it's never happened, but I didn't see it. Free N, P, and sometimes lime. A little odor before it dries. It will take new ground to productive quick. And at no cost. No potash in so you still need to buy that.
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Post by ebenezer on Nov 16, 2019 9:13:57 GMT -6
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Don't know if the link works (if I know how to make it work!) but it is referring to a court case in GA where cows died and dairies had to shut down. A big deal for Augusta, GA. I actually went to that treatment plant years ago when it was considered state of the art. Nothing wrong with the treatment plant but just what was in the sludge. As noted in this case, one issue was a high level of rat poison. This is not a lone case as Progressive Farmer had an article some years back about farms in the NE USA. Pig in a poke.
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Post by Allenw on Nov 16, 2019 10:39:27 GMT -6
I wouldn't be too afraid of the water pumped off a sewage treatment plant but the sludge they want to spread as "human waste" is a different matter. It's going to contain a lot of insoluble things like heavy metals and such.
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Post by okie on Nov 16, 2019 20:00:47 GMT -6
My concern would be pharmaceutical residue. Being a non food crop we as humans get to take some nasty stuff. At least half of the women of child bearing age are on some form of birth control, for example, and I know of some strange happenings involving dairy families that are on well water from near farms that use sync programs. As far as I know nobody is testing for estrogen, progesterin, prozac, opiods in water samples.
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Post by cowrancher75 on Nov 17, 2019 5:34:38 GMT -6
My concern would be pharmaceutical residue. Being a non food crop we as humans get to take some nasty stuff. At least half of the women of child bearing age are on some form of birth control, for example, and I know of some strange happenings involving dairy families that are on well water from near farms that use sync programs. As far as I know nobody is testing for estrogen, progesterin, prozac, opiods in water samples.
nah.. the only thing that pollutes are cows and farmers..
everyone pouring water to get desert to grow grass.. all the massive amount of towns / cities that spread fertilizers to grow a 'green' lawn... and all those drugs getting flushed... salt and brime getting poured by the thousands of tons per day per town for snow melt......
nah.. that doesn't do anything to the environment!
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