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Post by M-5 on Jan 12, 2020 18:39:58 GMT -6
This crazy ass brangus has always been skidish . Waits till I leave the pens before she ever comes in. Never had a vaccination or worming . Always 6 or 7 bcs . I noticed her around 11 this morning off from the bunch doing head low walk tail pump handle. Got my binoculars and could see sac and hoof. Rode down the road to get better look and she head to the woods . Gave her about 45 min went back there and eased in she bolts out of woods and just stands there high headed. Went back to the house and worked on the lot some more giving her time and trying to figure out how I would get her crazy ass to the house if I needed too. Another 45 min and I decide I will take tractor back there she won't run from it. Get about a hundred yards and I can see the calf wobbly and circling her. She will keep it back there 2 or 3 days. She always weans on of the biggest and they will be just as flighty .
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Post by highgrit on Jan 12, 2020 18:44:10 GMT -6
She's a nice cow, just not for my style of management.
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Post by brightraven on Jan 12, 2020 18:45:40 GMT -6
I covet docility above all else. They absolutely will not fit my system with that temperament.
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Post by M-5 on Jan 12, 2020 18:47:16 GMT -6
I covet docility above all else. They absolutely will not fit my system with that temperament. I do wish she was not as stand offish but I do not have a single one I can walk up too and touch.
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Post by jehosofat on Jan 12, 2020 18:48:23 GMT -6
I covet docility above all else. They absolutely will not fit my system with that temperament. If he caught her and petted her daily she'd probably come around. Dash probably ain't got time to do that.
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Post by M-5 on Jan 12, 2020 19:12:14 GMT -6
I covet docility above all else. They absolutely will not fit my system with that temperament. If he caught her and petted her daily she'd probably come around. Dash probably ain't got time to do that. I can garuntee I could pet her tomorrow , her head would be trying to mash me in the ground.
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Post by Allenw on Jan 12, 2020 19:38:16 GMT -6
That crazy stuff doesn't fly around here, they'll sprout a set of wheels pronto. I don't have the time and they'll disrupt the whole heard.
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Post by greybeard on Jan 12, 2020 20:01:46 GMT -6
That crazy stuff doesn't fly around here, they'll sprout a set of wheels pronto. I don't have the time and they'll disrupt the whole heard. I don't see the few crazy ones I've had over the years disrupting 'all' the rest, but a few will sometimes follow one when they take off running. Worst ones will go thru or over fences once they get into the flight mode. I never had but one I couldn't get close occasionally but all that type is hard to work..I get rid of them as soon as I can. Been my experience too, that their offspring are the same way as the mommas most of the time. Don't know if it's genetic or a learned response from momma.
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Post by greybeard on Jan 12, 2020 20:04:12 GMT -6
I covet docility above all else. They absolutely will not fit my system with that temperament. If he caught her and petted her daily she'd probably come around. Dash probably ain't got time to do that. Maybe. One of my friends has one that raises a good calf, but even after having her in a pen for 2 months last year and hand feeding her daily, the second he let her loose she highballed it for the other side of his place.
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Post by M-5 on Jan 12, 2020 20:08:53 GMT -6
That crazy stuff doesn't fly around here, they'll sprout a set of wheels pronto. I don't have the time and they'll disrupt the whole heard. I don't see the few crazy ones I've had over the years disrupting 'all' the rest, but a few will sometimes follow one when they take off running. Worst ones will go thru or over fences once they get into the flight mode. I never had but one I couldn't get close occasionally but all that type is hard to work..I get rid of them as soon as I can. Been my experience too, that their offspring are the same way as the mommas most of the time. Don't know if it's genetic or a learned response from momma. The rest don't pay her no mind. I have kept a couple of her heifers over the years. I feed heifers and they settle down good. I have no need in putting my hands on any of them. She works and raises good calves.
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Post by okie on Jan 12, 2020 20:46:35 GMT -6
Beyond the shadow of a doubt the very best set of cows that I've ever owned was about twenty head of Salers-ish cows that acted just like that. Flat nuts but did everything else flawlessly. I only saw them twice a year but I was always happy when I did.
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Post by farmerjan on Jan 12, 2020 21:13:15 GMT -6
Different styles for different people. The only bad thing about a cow like that is that in a pinch, that you needed to get her in for a difficult calving, you can't get near enough to her to do it. We have had our share over the years. In the beginning when we were trying to increase numbers.... and I was A LOT younger and faster on my feet.... we kept them. Today....NOPE. Plus for us, we move cattle alot from place to place, rented pastures and such, so they have to come into a catch lot of some sort. Got one now, bought last year as a bred, luckily she is at the main farm/barn lot. Can't get her near the gate to even get her into the lane to move her to another pasture. Everyone else will come down but she heads to the top of the hill. Got a calf and when it's time for it to go, they both go. She won't follow any of the other cows anywhere. I can't take the risk of getting hurt by one that is nuts and I can't be chasing one that won't come in a catch pen. But if you don't need to work with them like we do, and they raise a good calf, you just have to hope that they never have a bad presentation of a calf.
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Post by chuckie on Jan 12, 2020 21:27:13 GMT -6
I have found that a high headed cow does not mind hurting herself when you get close. Those are dangerous because they surely will hurt you. I was afraid that we had a heifer this year that was going to be high headed. She held her head up like a walking horse, and would dart around like like a minnow. Usually my husband takes all the heifers that I don't keep, to the commercial herd. I told him that I did not know if he would want her creating havoc at the other farm. But for some reason, her head is down now and she does not run.
I will still send her to the commercial herd if she stays in the mode she is now. But I am wondering if she will revert when it comes time to get her up.
I would not sell her to an individual as word gets around if you sell something crazy like that. Who ever buys her at the sale barn is buying at their own risk. She is a nice enough heifer that I would keep, but not with that attitude.
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Post by M-5 on Jan 13, 2020 6:15:09 GMT -6
Some of y'all never had to work a hundred head of F-1 brangus and it shows. Lol .
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Post by tcranch on Jan 13, 2020 7:20:19 GMT -6
I'm very hands on with my cattle, figuratively and literally, so docility is huge in my world, including the bulls. I had already made up my mind to sell a first calf heifer last year because she suddenly became very high headed and was a bully to the other heifers. When I moved the first calvers to the main herd she got a serious arse whoopin' and now she's as docile as they come.
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