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Post by fence on Feb 1, 2020 8:20:07 GMT -6
Hopefully birddog and Vette show.... picked up a 30 acre Hayfield on a long-term lease. It has a very thick stand of klien grass on about a third. I've already decided all I'm doing is spraying weeds and fertilizer. The other 20 has a fair amount of mesquite and lots of broomweed and paintbrush. Some areas the grass is completely chocked put. The grass that is there is klien and Johnson. Scattered in clumps of varying thickness. I shredded everything with a brush mower (to get mesquite down to below ground level) I know it will come back. ... good stand of ryegrass and TWG underneath. I kinda want to plow it up. The weedy part and plant haygrazer. ....but if I just sprayed and fertilizer. Would the klien and Johnson fill in this season. Would the volunteer ryegrass make a crop.   |
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Post by 1982vett on Feb 1, 2020 9:05:52 GMT -6
Looks like a fair amount of green under all the tall dry stuff. Taking into account that my management style leans to giving Mother Nature a chance to do her thing... I think I’d just shred it down now and fertilize it. That should give it good spring wake up and if we’re to start raining better would be helpful. Hit it with the sprayer and see how it responds.
Myself, I think it’s to late in the season to try to get it ready for haygrazer in the state it’s in now. The recent non-rain events have me concerned also. I was in the middle of renovating pastures back in 2010 when getting rain was becoming unpredictable. So counting on making haygrazer work this year isn’t a gamble I’d take but who knows.
I’m a lot more patient now than I used to be.
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Post by brightraven on Feb 1, 2020 9:06:54 GMT -6
Is that a safety Guard on the back of your brush mower? Never seen that up here.
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Post by fence on Feb 1, 2020 9:16:57 GMT -6
Is that a safety Guard on the back of your brush mower? Never seen that up here. It's a push bar on the front of my brush mower. |
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Post by brightraven on Feb 1, 2020 9:20:12 GMT -6
Is that a safety Guard on the back of your brush mower? Never seen that up here. It's a push bar on the front of my brush mower. On the front. Ok. You are not pulling it with a tractor. I was assuming you were pulling a rotary cutter, what most folks up here call a busghog |
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Post by fence on Feb 1, 2020 9:22:00 GMT -6
It's a push bar on the front of my brush mower. On the front. Ok. You are not pulling it with a tractor. I was assuming you were pulling a rotary cutter, what most folks up here call a busghog |
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Post by fence on Feb 1, 2020 9:25:06 GMT -6
On the front. Ok. You are not pulling it with a tractor. I was assuming you were pulling a rotary cutter, what most folks up here call a busghog Shredder is the proper name. And it would have been faster. But the brush mower will cut mesquite up to about 8" diameter and you can get the stumps down below grade. |
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Post by texaspapaw on Feb 9, 2020 16:46:41 GMT -6
Fence, if you will spray that pasture with 8 oz/ac remedy and 1/2 oz/ac cimarron plus in late April or early May, should get good weed control and will burn down the mesquite. Have done this for 2 consecutive years with good weed control plus even big mesquites are now dying. Cimarron plus has soil residual for weed control later into summer. Does pretty good job of keeping down late emerging wooly croton. Neither are restricted use so no license needed and very little drift risk.
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Post by birddog on Feb 9, 2020 20:49:20 GMT -6
You are doing what I would do and I agree with papaw. Use a real good herbicide in April and follow it up with something without residual later in the year. You will have a bunch of Rye grass this year that if you let it seed out will only get better. Johnson grass will come right back, Klein will also but at a slower pace. Klein seems slower to reseed itself after a being neglected.
Plowing will only bring up more weed seed so I have found it best to kinda get a control on what is there before stirring up the rest.
Trying not to stock it very heavy for the first year will always help. Maybe scratch some oats into it in the fall on the thinner spots to get some ground cover. The place will be a prime place to unroll some good rye grass hay next winter.
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Post by greybeard on Feb 9, 2020 21:07:35 GMT -6
What are the tall stalky looking weeds with the ball looking things on them?  |
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Post by fence on Feb 10, 2020 6:10:01 GMT -6
What are the tall stalky looking weeds with the ball looking things on them? Cuckelburrs |
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Feb 11, 2020 17:28:53 GMT -6
Looks like you're doing that place a world of good.
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Post by fence on Feb 12, 2020 13:31:14 GMT -6
So going back to this field. The landowner wants it in hay production. Cows ok in the winter. I'm all about trying to just improve the klien and Johnson grass that's there. After getting it cleaned up there is several acres that are pretty damn rough for a Hayfield. So live with it or go ahead and disc and drag those parts and maybe plant haygrazer on those spots for this season?
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Post by M-5 on Feb 12, 2020 13:48:14 GMT -6
You can do a world of good on rough fields rolling while it's raining provided it's not boggy
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