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Mar 17, 2020 18:32:53 GMT -6
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Post by bulltrader on Mar 17, 2020 18:32:53 GMT -6
My mistake. State, not Federal. Listened to word of mouth and didn't check sources. Sorry. I'm State. Virginia. |
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Post by angusrancher on Mar 17, 2020 19:02:01 GMT -6
SD they were told to stay home and try to work. Welfare visits being made by phone. Court ordered UA's and breathalyzers not being done.....
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Mar 18, 2020 3:08:38 GMT -6
Federal is/will shut down. Doing so systematically now.
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Mar 18, 2020 3:34:42 GMT -6
Easing into it, listen to Rubio around 4 min mark... they cant rely on being able to meet in the next week or 15 days.
He also says 6 to 8 weeks things will be more normal.
I suspect full shutdown coming in next 15 days. We will be operational again by May if not later part of April.
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Mar 18, 2020 3:37:14 GMT -6
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Post by cowrancher75 on Mar 18, 2020 6:05:16 GMT -6
I do big runs to SAMS quarterly. I usually stock up on things in large quantities like canned mushroom soup (we use a lot for casseroles), various broths, toilet paper, canned veggies, etc... I cook a lot. We generally do not dine out but maybe once a month and that is because of time restrictions. I feel adequately prepared for this because I recently stocked up prior to the scare but I keep going back to wondering how I'd feel right now if I couldn't get items. I walked into grocery store this morning while at work because I was going to grab a treat for my employees and the shelves were wiped clean. We only have like 10 cases in Nebraska? Our schools just closed today. My son is a senior this year and his spring sports are over. Prom is being "postponed" and we don't know if he'll get a chance to walk across the stage and get his diploma. That really hurts my heart. I have talked to a few other parents, offering our big shop once the crew gets planting so we can get this equipment out of there and we could hold our own damn prom. It seems petty to be thinking about these little things when so much is going on around us but I am fighting for normalcy. I sure hope this blows over quick. In other news, I wish I had the means to create a farm to table beef business. I have a pot load ready now and 2 more that'll be ready in April. I am so thankful I have my real job because being a farmer/rancher isn't padding the wallet. But this too shall pass. I think we will be forced to postpone our bull sale next Monday.
you have 3 potloads of cattle and dont make any money off them?
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Post by 11111 on Mar 18, 2020 8:32:00 GMT -6
I do big runs to SAMS quarterly. I usually stock up on things in large quantities like canned mushroom soup (we use a lot for casseroles), various broths, toilet paper, canned veggies, etc... I cook a lot. We generally do not dine out but maybe once a month and that is because of time restrictions. I feel adequately prepared for this because I recently stocked up prior to the scare but I keep going back to wondering how I'd feel right now if I couldn't get items. I walked into grocery store this morning while at work because I was going to grab a treat for my employees and the shelves were wiped clean. We only have like 10 cases in Nebraska? Our schools just closed today. My son is a senior this year and his spring sports are over. Prom is being "postponed" and we don't know if he'll get a chance to walk across the stage and get his diploma. That really hurts my heart. I have talked to a few other parents, offering our big shop once the crew gets planting so we can get this equipment out of there and we could hold our own damn prom. It seems petty to be thinking about these little things when so much is going on around us but I am fighting for normalcy. I sure hope this blows over quick. In other news, I wish I had the means to create a farm to table beef business. I have a pot load ready now and 2 more that'll be ready in April. I am so thankful I have my real job because being a farmer/rancher isn't padding the wallet. But this too shall pass. I think we will be forced to postpone our bull sale next Monday.
you have 3 potloads of cattle and dont make any money off them?
Are you unaware of live cattle prices right now? We'd be making roughly 3-400 less per cow if we sold. There is NO money in live cattle at the moment. |
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Post by bulltrader on Mar 18, 2020 8:35:34 GMT -6
I was going to sell 50 calves the first Saturday in April. Not now.
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Post by 11111 on Mar 18, 2020 8:36:15 GMT -6
My mistake. State, not Federal. Listened to word of mouth and didn't check sources. Sorry. If they shut me down, the whole world just collapsed and it is the end of times. I have a sign out my door that asks everyone with a cough, sneeze, fever, or other flu like symptoms to not enter my building.
Well... that isn't working. A lady the other day, hacked all over me and my blood started boiling.
My community is asking where they can gather for their morning coffee time. 1st world problems.
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Post by 11111 on Mar 18, 2020 8:38:07 GMT -6
I was going to sell 50 calves the first Saturday in April. Not now. We have spoken to some area folks who said these past week sales at barns have actually sold fairly well. The only thing taking a hit are pairs. Which we planned to sell 50+ pairs and breds on our bull sale. So we might pull them but will continue to watch the rest of the salebarns closely prior to our sale. |
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Post by angusrancher on Mar 18, 2020 12:54:45 GMT -6
My mistake. State, not Federal. Listened to word of mouth and didn't check sources. Sorry. If they shut me down, the whole world just collapsed and it is the end of times. I have a sign out my door that asks everyone with a cough, sneeze, fever, or other flu like symptoms to not enter my building.
Well... that isn't working. A lady the other day, hacked all over me and my blood started boiling.
My community is asking where they can gather for their morning coffee time. 1st world problems.
That's worse than anything livestock can come up with, imo. i think most bank tellers have a, or more, phlegm story as well. It was posted, first hand shoppers that we know, that Walmart in Rapid City was sold out of beef. I don't know if that means both locations. Buy stock in meat packers I suppose. |
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Mar 19, 2020 3:40:12 GMT -6
If they shut me down, the whole world just collapsed and it is the end of times. I have a sign out my door that asks everyone with a cough, sneeze, fever, or other flu like symptoms to not enter my building.
Well... that isn't working. A lady the other day, hacked all over me and my blood started boiling.
My community is asking where they can gather for their morning coffee time. 1st world problems.
That's worse than anything livestock can come up with, imo. i think most bank tellers have a, or more, phlegm story as well. It was posted, first hand shoppers that we know, that Walmart in Rapid City was sold out of beef. I don't know if that means both locations. Buy stock in meat packers I suppose. I think you are sitting on a gold mine my friend. We just have to weather this storm temporarily. Remember a few facts: 1. This President is working to save America and put America back to being the economic might of the world. 2. Agriculture is national security. He has proven he will protect American ag against the targeting by globalists through whatever means necessary. 3. He has promoted the beef industry numerous times. 35% of all ag operations are beef producers. Beef is the #1 product in total sales produced by American agricultural producers. 4. Think of the above statistic. If you wanted to attack American ag, who would you target? The fake news attack on beef over the past several decades make sense now? 5. Real world markets do not reflect the BS paper trading. Grocery store shelves are empty from being bought out, yet the paper value is dropping. That is decoupled. Just like the precious medals markets. 6. Regulatory capture of packing has the beef producer by the balls. This is the reason the grocery store prices are decoupled from the cow/calf through feedlot producers. Why has the President not done something already to kill the regulatory capture? I suspect there are more gears turning than we can see operating. But I think it's coming shortly. Deregulation of the packing industry would catapult income of 35% of US agricultural producers and #1 ag product in sales... think about that. All without harming the end consumer. If, and that's a big if, the run on protein/meat continued, it would make one heck of an opportunity to deregulate the supply chain. Consumers win and farmers win. Only the packers that helped to legislate the corrent situation stand to lose. Deregulate...just like he temporarily did with trucking in regards to national food supply. Rather this happens now, or in a short period of time by other means, I think it is coming one way or the other. He's stated over and over that the American farmer will do well. I can see how, just not sure of the exact timing. |
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Post by highgrit on Mar 19, 2020 8:50:08 GMT -6
I've been waiting for over 3 years for fair beef prices. And all I have to show for is the China virus.
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Post by 11111 on Mar 19, 2020 10:30:36 GMT -6
That's worse than anything livestock can come up with, imo. i think most bank tellers have a, or more, phlegm story as well. It was posted, first hand shoppers that we know, that Walmart in Rapid City was sold out of beef. I don't know if that means both locations. Buy stock in meat packers I suppose. I think you are sitting on a gold mine my friend. We just have to weather this storm temporarily. Remember a few facts: 1. This President is working to save America and put America back to being the economic might of the world. 2. Agriculture is national security. He has proven he will protect American ag against the targeting by globalists through whatever means necessary. 3. He has promoted the beef industry numerous times. 35% of all ag operations are beef producers. Beef is the #1 product in total sales produced by American agricultural producers. 4. Think of the above statistic. If you wanted to attack American ag, who would you target? The fake news attack on beef over the past several decades make sense now? 5. Real world markets do not reflect the BS paper trading. Grocery store shelves are empty from being bought out, yet the paper value is dropping. That is decoupled. Just like the precious medals markets. 6. Regulatory capture of packing has the beef producer by the balls. This is the reason the grocery store prices are decoupled from the cow/calf through feedlot producers. Why has the President not done something already to kill the regulatory capture? I suspect there are more gears turning than we can see operating. But I think it's coming shortly. Deregulation of the packing industry would catapult income of 35% of US agricultural producers and #1 ag product in sales... think about that. All without harming the end consumer. If, and that's a big if, the run on protein/meat continued, it would make one heck of an opportunity to deregulate the supply chain. Consumers win and farmers win. Only the packers that helped to legislate the corrent situation stand to lose. Deregulate...just like he temporarily did with trucking in regards to national food supply. Rather this happens now, or in a short period of time by other means, I think it is coming one way or the other. He's stated over and over that the American farmer will do well. I can see how, just not sure of the exact timing. Our beef is exported as NHTC (Non-Hormone Treated Cattle) to places like China/Europe, etc... I do believe that it is also provided to our military overseas but cannot be certain. We get a bonus for that cattle because of the NHTC. Our bonus has been the only real profitable part of this the last couple years. While our feed costs are minimal because we also grow a large portion of our own feed, it is still difficult to squeeze those dollars out. I honestly don't know how others do it because I feel beyond blessed for the opportunities before us.
But it was just ONE year ago, 03/13/2019 that we had that massive flood that swept away livestock, broke all pasture fences, left many new calves super sick and brought cows up lame. It was a treacherous couple months after and it feels like we're still in a race to catch up. Then this Coronavirus hits an already crappy market and it just isn't in anyone's best interest to continue to fight an uphill battle, honestly.
I wish as ranchers, we'd fight these packing houses for fair and equitable dollars. But there will always be that few that fold and give them what they want. We're re-evaluating our place in the live cattle. We may just finish them for our customers and allow them to take those risks. We are damn good at what we do and love cattle but it can sure place a large burden on you emotionally and physically.
Everyone holds on for hope because we're all passionate in what we do but if things don't start turning for the better, a lot of folks will have to let go of that and move onto something less rewarding and unfulfilling.
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Post by highgrit on Mar 19, 2020 11:20:48 GMT -6
Personally I don't see where the cattle price is all that bad. But we're just trying to make a little and not worried about the cows paying anything off. It's the principal that chaps my lips.
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