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Post by 11111 on Apr 10, 2020 11:34:52 GMT -6
A couple men came out and drove through the calves with my FIL while my husband fed. They do this every year. They're into show cattle and that isn't really what my husband and I are involved in but my FIL breeds for club calf type stuff and our cattle run together during calving season.
I guess they were in the market for a purebred angus. Which means, they were eyeing all our stuff. Came back and asked my husband about our Rainfall calf out of our Renown cow. She TRULY is a beautiful thing but she isn't for sale. Husband told them that. They came back with a very nice offer and hubby called me and I said NO! I have literally dreamt about this pregnancy. She is to me, what America is to BH. I want HER offspring. I have been told by a couple others who've seen her that she is something special. One guy said he'd come back in a year just to see what she turned into.
My FIL made a smartass comment that I need to sell her and just make more. I don't feel that way. Why would I sell my best heifer? Would you?
Her Dam...
www.angus.org/Animal/EpdPedDtl.aspx?aid=FAAAAN%2fsQUBQni0QibuLvxMQMZoEX1QjVcfnKbiDlrzZIcmv&time=LgAAAAQ9wfuK289eJE6b6zc9J9VYCZ%2bEEGLYz4iJRwJlFOihQs%2bkzrmcD74M5wY1O46rng%3d%3d
I will post a video of her in comments. I will have to use my phone to do that.
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Post by 11111 on Apr 10, 2020 11:35:56 GMT -6
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Post by 11111 on Apr 10, 2020 11:45:12 GMT -6
Not sure why it keeps saying it is unavailable. It is there.
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Post by chuckie on Apr 10, 2020 14:14:51 GMT -6
11111, If this was a pregnancy that I had bee waiting for; and felt the way that you do about this heifer, I would not sell her. Part of being in cattle can be a passion too, and what makes you enjoy going out to feed the cattle each day. I don't always put money over what is important to me.
I say keep her. She may help you turn your future herd around with the perfect bull and she has the possibility to give you many heifers to add to your future herd.
If you sell her, you may look back and feel that you wish that you had of kept her. A cow always has the greatest calf, even though the others are good, but there is only one that is the best.
I have one cow that produces my best calf each year. She will be 12 yrs old this year, and I am still waiting for that heifer. She has had bulls, and when she does have that heifer, it will not be for sale either.
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Post by hughespieds on Apr 10, 2020 15:20:01 GMT -6
I'm not married to any of them. So, for the right price...
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Post by franklinridgefarms on Apr 10, 2020 17:06:46 GMT -6
That is a question that folks will have different opinions on. I know some folks would say yes for the right price but also others would keep them regardless. I know of someone that had a heifer they really wanted to keep but someone asked about her and they priced her at a premium thinking they would not be willing to pay that but they were and I think they always regretted that sale. The way I look at it is if you have a real good one that is worth that much to someone else she should be worth quite a bit to you to in terms of what she can contribute to your herd.
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Post by tcranch on Apr 10, 2020 17:08:25 GMT -6
I agree with Chuckie and wouldn't sell. Mine is not a registered herd but I have sold some I really didn't want to and I'm still kicking myself. Even if they're offering an outrageous amount you wouldn't feel good about it because you put your heart & soul into this heifer - and they can buy another one that doesn't have the personal attachment.
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Post by farmerjan on Apr 10, 2020 17:34:45 GMT -6
If you wanted her that much, then don't sell. You might consider breeding this cow back the same way and then offering the calf to them with first refusal... use sexed semen and have a 90% chance of a heifer..... Or maybe consider flushing the cow to this same semen and have the embryos sexed and selling them an embryo or 2.....
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Post by farmerjan on Apr 10, 2020 17:40:12 GMT -6
I will say that we had a guy offer a pretty exorbitant amount for 2 heifers one time that he wanted for show heifers for his kids. Couldn't go the way out prices that some bring, but still quite a bit more than they were worth as feeders at the time. Didn't sell them and had one get caught in some hi-tensile wire at a rented pasture later that year and actually got so tangled up that she got down with her back down a slight hill and died.... looked like she strangled but the ground was all tore up so it could have been because she couldn't get back upright too..... I did breed her momma back the same way and got a nice full sister 2 years later...... but that was a lost sale and a lost calf.....
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Post by 11111 on Apr 10, 2020 18:44:30 GMT -6
The perspectives of others has been interesting. I just can’t bring myself to do it. I know it really peaked my husbands interest but he’s standing by me. I told him we could sell his E017. That put things in perspective a bit.
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Post by birddog on Apr 10, 2020 20:47:22 GMT -6
Everything I own is for sale, just make me an offer. Can I interest you in a couple broke mouth cows? They are my best cows. I've had them forever.
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Post by highgrit on Apr 11, 2020 6:40:37 GMT -6
I'd sell her in a heartbeat, making money is never a bad thing. There's a very real possibility that the next one will be even better.
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Post by bulltrader on Apr 11, 2020 6:46:39 GMT -6
If I liked her and had bred her up to be what I wanted for the future the price would be very high. Like the price of what she would produce in her lifetime. The enjoyment of knowing you have accomplished what you wanted is worth something also.
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Post by ebenezer on Apr 11, 2020 7:01:16 GMT -6
Sometimes, or maybe many times, the "great heifer" never makes a great cow. If that combination is great, sell her and take the money and flush the cow for more of the same rather than one. Not a big deal and not a bad return. I laugh at the great auction heifer for the AAA Foundation sale each year. It is such an honor for a ranch's heifer to be selected, they feed her like a market hog, they groom her for a fashion show, she sells for a ridiculous price (it's all wonderful because it is "for the chillens") and then, and then, and then .... you never hear of the heifer or any offspring again!
On a first time cross and a one-time cross there is no farm predictability. The best bet on such an animal is money rather than dreams.
On the farm or ranch: the late Larry Leonhardt told a friend that he thought that the heifers that were"best" from best growth were never the best replacement heifers. He seems to think that the high growth heifers might have had a bit more testosterone than the average heifers. I do not know but the top ones never are the end-all in my opinion for more reasons than a question of hormone imbalance.
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Post by 11111 on Apr 11, 2020 7:45:04 GMT -6
Sometimes, or maybe many times, the "great heifer" never makes a great cow. If that combination is great, sell her and take the money and flush the cow for more of the same rather than one. Not a big deal and not a bad return. I laugh at the great auction heifer for the AAA Foundation sale each year. It is such an honor for a ranch's heifer to be selected, they feed her like a market hog, they groom her for a fashion show, she sells for a ridiculous price (it's all wonderful because it is "for the chillens") and then, and then, and then .... you never hear of the heifer or any offspring again! On a first time cross and a one-time cross there is no farm predictability. The best bet on such an animal is money rather than dreams. On the farm or ranch: the late Larry Leonhardt told a friend that he thought that the heifers that were"best" from best growth were never the best replacement heifers. He seems to think that the high growth heifers might have had a bit more testosterone than the average heifers. I do not know but the top ones never are the end-all in my opinion for more reasons than a question of hormone imbalance. I understand what you are saying. She isn't by far our best growth, she's just perfect in scale. If that makes sense. They say for humans, those with perfect symmetrical structure are often the most beautiful in our eyes. I'd say, that is the best way I could describe her. LOL. They said our E017 was the second best but if they gave her show feed, she might get a little heavy fronted. That show stuff isn't my game. I don't make things fluffy, I get them to calve.
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