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Vet Gun
Aug 5, 2020 13:27:09 GMT -6
Post by chuckie on Aug 5, 2020 13:27:09 GMT -6
Thank you angusrancher, I bookmarked that page in case this new information does not work.
I wrote Smartvet who makes the Vet Gun, and they wrote back. They sent this page to me from Amazon that can be used with a 20 lb canister. I have a small scale that will measure up to 6 pounds in one ounce increments. that I use to measure the calf milk replacer powder. I feel that I can place the 20 lb canister on the counter and place the scales and the 14 oz vet gun canister on it and slowly let it out and watch the scales to not let it go over.
I am going to give that a try and hope that it works.
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Post by 11111 on Aug 8, 2020 7:56:19 GMT -6
We have a vet gun and it has sat on the shelf after first use. The balls are not cost effective but will get the job done in a pinch.
The garlic mineral, we used on one pasture and liked it at first but they consumed a lot more of it. Now that we've weaned, we did also see a 20Lbs difference on our calves. So, the extra cost was worth it. While consumption may have been more, I am sure the relative stress of flies played a part in the extra pounds.
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Vet Gun
Aug 8, 2020 12:28:59 GMT -6
Post by chuckie on Aug 8, 2020 12:28:59 GMT -6
We have a vet gun and it has sat on the shelf after first use. The balls are not cost effective but will get the job done in a pinch. The garlic mineral, we used on one pasture and liked it at first but they consumed a lot more of it. Now that we've weaned, we did also see a 20Lbs difference on our calves. So, the extra cost was worth it. While consumption may have been more, I am sure the relative stress of flies played a part in the extra pounds. 11111, I was reading where flies left unchecked can suck up to a pint of blood a day from a cow. I am sure with all the swatting and throwing their heads back to get rid of them, it burns a lot of calories. And, like you said, the stress factor I am sure does not allow them to rest like they could if no flies were there. When I put mineral back in the feeder next time, I may mix in garlic with the mineral myself.
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Vet Gun
Aug 10, 2020 10:57:59 GMT -6
Post by 11111 on Aug 10, 2020 10:57:59 GMT -6
We have a vet gun and it has sat on the shelf after first use. The balls are not cost effective but will get the job done in a pinch. The garlic mineral, we used on one pasture and liked it at first but they consumed a lot more of it. Now that we've weaned, we did also see a 20Lbs difference on our calves. So, the extra cost was worth it. While consumption may have been more, I am sure the relative stress of flies played a part in the extra pounds. 11111, I was reading where flies left unchecked can suck up to a pint of blood a day from a cow. I am sure with all the swatting and throwing their heads back to get rid of them, it burns a lot of calories. And, like you said, the stress factor I am sure does not allow them to rest like they could if no flies were there. When I put mineral back in the feeder next time, I may mix in garlic with the mineral myself. We calculated that it cost us $3 per cow more for the entire time at pasture (late May-September), that was prior to the additional consumption. We added salt to the mineral to slow them down some. We do plan to use it again next year, on all our pastures. We just gave it a test run this year and compared the pasture within a 1/2 mile of it. The pasture without the garlic, ended up getting pre-wean shots and fly tags. They're just so bad this year. When we brought home the calves, we always experience a lot of pink eye from the haul. Coincidentally, the garlic pasture had less cases of calves with pink eye.
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Vet Gun
Aug 13, 2020 10:12:49 GMT -6
Post by chuckie on Aug 13, 2020 10:12:49 GMT -6
11111, that is good to hear about the pink eye. I wonder what percentage of garlic powder to add to a 50 lb bag of mineral? You can buy garlic powder in bulk and it is cheaper. What brand of mineral are you feeding so I can look it up and maybe find the percentage. I will just have to figure it out.
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Vet Gun
Aug 13, 2020 16:10:03 GMT -6
Post by angusrancher on Aug 13, 2020 16:10:03 GMT -6
11111, that is good to hear about the pink eye. I wonder what percentage of garlic powder to add to a 50 lb bag of mineral? You can buy garlic powder in bulk and it is cheaper. What brand of mineral are you feeding so I can look it up and maybe find the percentage. I will just have to figure it out. Here's the label on the stuff we've been buying. It's just listed as part of the Vitamin A supplement. There is a faint garlic odor, so maybe you can guess close enough. We've been feeding it free choice. No pink eye at all and only very few with foot rot.
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Post by chuckie on Aug 13, 2020 17:17:30 GMT -6
Thank you so much Angusrancher!! Your mineral looks like a good one. I know for sure that the Monensin makes a difference when fed to cattle. Seeing the Vitamin A at 160,000, what the heck does that mean? I will have to do some digging to see how to read a label. I wish they would make it easier to understand and just list it as 10 oz. per 50 lbs. I will do some digging tonight after supper. I wish I had a code ring to make it easier!!
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Vet Gun
Aug 13, 2020 19:30:42 GMT -6
Post by angusrancher on Aug 13, 2020 19:30:42 GMT -6
Thank you so much Angusrancher!! Your mineral looks like a good one. I know for sure that the Monensin makes a difference when fed to cattle. Seeing the Vitamin A at 160,000, what the heck does that mean? I will have to do some digging to see how to read a label. I wish they would make it easier to understand and just list it as 10 oz. per 50 lbs. I will do some digging tonight after supper. I wish I had a code ring to make it easier!! 160000 International Units per pound, but that still doesn't give a clue to the garlic, I don't think. Maybe it's not an exact science. I wonder how much garlic smell is in the minerals the others have used. This one is minimal. How much is bulk garlic powder? This has $24 of it in a ton. Maybe add 50 to 75 cents worth to a 50 pound bag of mineral and stir it up? LOL.......sort of.
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Post by chuckie on Aug 13, 2020 19:57:19 GMT -6
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Vet Gun
Jan 29, 2022 20:57:50 GMT -6
Post by chuckie on Jan 29, 2022 20:57:50 GMT -6
I am handing the expensive as hell vet gun over to my Grandson, who will enjoy trying to figure out how to make it work. He and his buddy seem to enjoy tackling things. It never fails that we have products in all forms made for cattle horses, cars, trucks, and you name it where they make them and they are just to rip you off. I feel the ball rubber is now too old to bust or the insecticide is too old to work.
I have about decided to put double sided tape on the cows side and stick one of those balls on it, then as they walk by, just smack it as hard as you can with your hand or a ping pong paddle. It may take us another year to find out what will bust it.
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Vet Gun
Jan 29, 2022 21:09:09 GMT -6
via mobile
Post by bulltrader on Jan 29, 2022 21:09:09 GMT -6
Good ones to use to see if everything works correctly.
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