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Post by bigfoot on May 4, 2016 12:19:55 GMT -6
I started a pretty extensive study of the first 6 books of the bible. I've always felt "under studied" on them, and revelations. I find the early books of the bible very interesting. I always have. So many of the names and places, are lost on me. I never want to sound like I'm questioning God, but his chosen people seem to be plagued by bad choices, and a bad attitude. I see those traits in myself btw. Just so much destruction and conquering of people. A drastic contradiction to much of the New Testament, especially the Gospels but not much different from the book of revelations.
I can see our own country becoming a modern day Sodom. Much like Lot had to protect his visitors, I feel the need to protect my family. Fearing for them, because they are in a public restroom, just seems wrong to me. I wish we could make a drastic change, and return to the values of my youth. Maybe we were just as twisted then, but fear kept the wolves at bay. As a Christian, I know I need to have a nonviolent attitude. Part of me wants to bring back fear. Fear of reprisal. Just as those who inhabited the promised land feared the children of Abraham. Am I wrong?
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Post by M-5 on May 4, 2016 15:00:02 GMT -6
BF, Most skip the most important part of the Bible and that Is Genesis IMO. It explains everything. People today and I suspect people of yesterday try to make our life here as close to perfect or Heavenly as they can. But GOD explains that this creation Is fallen and we will not be perfect until we set before him. so everything in this life is working against us. Sin is everywhere and always has been. The only thing that has changed is technology. Everyone works to have a comfortable life and with that brings immoral behavior, attitude or just plain greed. This world is full of evil the best you can do is ask for forgiveness and life your life knowing that you will have to answer for it.
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Post by okie on May 4, 2016 16:59:12 GMT -6
I did a bunch of reading during our move. Last year this very week we came to OK to look at property and I really felt like God was with me on that trip. I felt like I was being shown where He wanted me and I can't describe that feeling but I KNEW. At that point in time I really felt like I had to move or I'd be sinning.
Later that year my wife and kids had already moved and I was still running the farm stuff and breeding cows and sitting there by myself at night and I started having doubts about what I'd gotten us into. I was reading through scripture and almost nightly I'd be looking for something completely different and come across something about how God deals with people that don't obey his commands or how we should trust Him instead of being fearful. I read about Sodom and looked around me at the state CA is in and my fears about leaving went away completely. In CA they teach un-Godliness in school as part of the curriculum(not to my kids, we home school and that's a big chunk of why we do it) Once I saw it that way I was content to leave and not look back. We've been blessed since and the things I struggled with in CA just keep getting worse.
My faith has always been there but it's never been a huge part of my life. But somewhere out on Interstate 40 I did a bunch of praying like I never have before and consider myself born again since then.
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Post by bigfoot on May 4, 2016 18:40:36 GMT -6
I did a bunch of reading during our move. Last year this very week we came to OK to look at property and I really felt like God was with me on that trip. I felt like I was being shown where He wanted me and I can't describe that feeling but I KNEW. At that point in time I really felt like I had to move or I'd be sinning. Later that year my wife and kids had already moved and I was still running the farm stuff and breeding cows and sitting there by myself at night and I started having doubts about what I'd gotten us into. I was reading through scripture and almost nightly I'd be looking for something completely different and come across something about how God deals with people that don't obey his commands or how we should trust Him instead of being fearful. I read about Sodom and looked around me at the state CA is in and my fears about leaving went away completely. In CA they teach un-Godliness in school as part of the curriculum(not to my kids, we home school and that's a big chunk of why we do it) Once I saw it that way I was content to leave and not look back. We've been blessed since and the things I struggled with in CA just keep getting worse. My faith has always been there but it's never been a huge part of my life. But somewhere out on Interstate 40 I did a bunch of praying like I never have before and consider myself born again since then. Great post. |
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Post by larryshoat on May 7, 2016 5:06:55 GMT -6
That is a good post.
Larry
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Post by cottagefarm on Jul 5, 2019 10:00:51 GMT -6
I started a pretty extensive study of the first 6 books of the bible. I've always felt "under studied" on them, and revelations. I find the early books of the bible very interesting. I always have. So many of the names and places, are lost on me. I never want to sound like I'm questioning God, but his chosen people seem to be plagued by bad choices, and a bad attitude. I see those traits in myself btw. Just so much destruction and conquering of people. A drastic contradiction to much of the New Testament, especially the Gospels but not much different from the book of revelations. I can see our own country becoming a modern day Sodom. Much like Lot had to protect his visitors, I feel the need to protect my family. Fearing for them, because they are in a public restroom, just seems wrong to me. I wish we could make a drastic change, and return to the values of my youth. Maybe we were just as twisted then, but fear kept the wolves at bay. As a Christian, I know I need to have a nonviolent attitude. Part of me wants to bring back fear. Fear of reprisal. Just as those who inhabited the promised land feared the children of Abraham. Am I wrong? Bigfoot, this comment reminds me of a quote by one of my favorite talk show hosts, who teaches the 1st 5 books of the the Old Testament.
In context, he is discussing his numerous rationale for his belief in the divinity of the Torah.
"....10. In the religious bibles of all other religions, the people of those religions are described positively. In the Torah, the Jews are constantly described in negative terms. It is inconceivable that Jewish authors would have depicted their own people as negatively as the Torah does.... "
BF, I believe that it is perfectly okay to be angry with what you see happening around us. Even Jesus got angry Jesus when He expelled the merchants and money changers from the Temple for defiling it. The question, for all of us, is what to do with that anger? For me, I ask Him to take my anger from me, at least until He tells me it is time to take another path.
I understand your feelings about fear. I don't know, of course, but I think the time for that to be effective has passed. I just try to influence one soul at a time. You have a larger reach though, so maybe you can reach a dozen or two at a time  |
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Post by greybeard on Jul 5, 2019 10:31:56 GMT -6
I started a pretty extensive study of the first 6 books of the bible. I've always felt "under studied" on them, and revelations. I find the early books of the bible very interesting. I always have. So many of the names and places, are lost on me. I never want to sound like I'm questioning God, but his chosen people seem to be plagued by bad choices, and a bad attitude. I see those traits in myself btw. Just so much destruction and conquering of people. A drastic contradiction to much of the New Testament, especially the Gospels but not much different from the book of revelations. I can see our own country becoming a modern day Sodom. Much like Lot had to protect his visitors, I feel the need to protect my family. Fearing for them, because they are in a public restroom, just seems wrong to me. I wish we could make a drastic change, and return to the values of my youth. Maybe we were just as twisted then, but fear kept the wolves at bay. As a Christian, I know I need to have a nonviolent attitude. Part of me wants to bring back fear. Fear of reprisal. Just as those who inhabited the promised land feared the children of Abraham. Am I wrong? Bigfoot, this comment reminds me of a quote by one of my favorite talk show hosts, who teaches the 1st 5 books of the the Old Testament.
In context, he is discussing his numerous rationale for his belief in the divinity of the Torah.
"....10. In the religious bibles of all other religions, the people of those religions are described positively. In the Torah, the Jews are constantly described in negative terms. It is inconceivable that Jewish authors would have depicted their own people as negatively as the Torah does.... "
BF, I believe that it is perfectly okay to be angry with what you see happening around us. Even Jesus got angry Jesus when He expelled the merchants and money changers from the Temple for defiling it. The question, for all of us, is what to do with that anger? For me, I ask Him to take my anger from me, at least until He tells me it is time to take another path.
I understand your feelings about fear. I don't know, of course, but I think the time for that to be effective has passed. I just try to influence one soul at a time. You have a larger reach though, so maybe you can reach a dozen or two at a time |
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