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Post by ebenezer on Jul 11, 2019 6:45:00 GMT -6
 A Graham Angus influenced bull. Retained a full brother and a half brother. Not great, in terms of blow hard (BH) bragging, but this type works here. Had a nerve issue in left rear leg from an old injury. His influence stays in sons and daughters. As they say, perfection is the enemy of good. Deal the cards you have and move on. |
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Post by M-5 on Jul 11, 2019 6:47:00 GMT -6
Looks like he was a great bull. Long and thick
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Post by randy on Jul 11, 2019 6:58:55 GMT -6
Thats a solid bull Eb from my point of view.
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Post by 3LT Farms on Jul 11, 2019 7:08:11 GMT -6
Nice looking bull. That's the kind that would benefit a lot of pastures.
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Post by franklinridgefarms on Jul 11, 2019 7:42:57 GMT -6
Nice looking bull. That's the kind that would benefit a lot of pastures. I think that statement is right on target. It's unfortunate but I think a lot and myself included bought into the idea of breeding names and numbers, thinking that would get the desired results. I am currently rethinking a lot that and slowly going toward a specific type of cow, irrespective of breed. |
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Post by M-5 on Jul 11, 2019 8:28:44 GMT -6
Nice looking bull. That's the kind that would benefit a lot of pastures. I think that statement is right on target. It's unfortunate but I think a lot and myself included bought into the idea of breeding names and numbers, thinking that would get the desired results. I am currently rethinking a lot that and slowly going toward a specific type of cow, irrespective of breed. For the every day Joe smo, breeding what you like and productive in your environment and produce the most pounds is what's important. Fads come and go just like clothing. I think parachute pants are making a comeback now. Lord help us. |
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Post by jehosofat on Jul 11, 2019 8:33:16 GMT -6
Dang nice looking bull right there, not BH standards, but nice just the same. 😁😁😁
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Post by tcranch on Jul 11, 2019 8:38:40 GMT -6
I like him! How old was he? It's painful to see a good bull go.
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Post by sleepy on Jul 11, 2019 11:33:45 GMT -6
Very nice angus bull. I've been curious about you're cattle. Any time someone questions your breeding methods you need to post pictures! Just don't tell everyone his momma weighs #2200 though or you'll get the eyeroll too!
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Post by randy on Jul 11, 2019 12:52:20 GMT -6
Thats the kinda bull that sells to your neighbors. For the most part people are not going to drive to far to buy a bull. Most commercial folks around here have never heard of SAV or SAV America. I sell most of the bulls i sell in a pretty small area.
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Post by ebenezer on Jul 11, 2019 14:08:30 GMT -6
I like him! How old was he? It's painful to see a good bull go. 5YO |
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Post by tcranch on Jul 11, 2019 17:00:42 GMT -6
I like him! How old was he? It's painful to see a good bull go. 5YO Ouch! |
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Post by okie on Jul 11, 2019 20:01:28 GMT -6
That's the kind I like.
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Post by highgrit on Jul 12, 2019 5:26:37 GMT -6
I have a couple of Graham influenced heifers I bought from Hill-Vue Farms years ago that I'm very happy with. As a matter of fact I'm thinking about keeping a bull from one this year to use in our herd. The only negative I found is some of the teats get big after a few calves. Nice looking bull that will work in most commercial operations.
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Post by ebenezer on Jul 12, 2019 5:43:05 GMT -6
I have a couple of Graham influenced heifers I bought from Hill-Vue Farms years ago that I'm very happy with. As a matter of fact I'm thinking about keeping a bull from one this year to use in our herd. The only negative I found is some of the teats get big after a few calves. Nice looking bull that will work in most commercial operations. As Graham wound down they brought in outside bulls and finally outside heifers in a rush for marketing or carcass or something. They messed up in my opinion but it was not my herd or my money. There were already cattle in the herd that tended that way on teats prior but the reshuffle of genes left some long term buyers unable to feel comfortable on the selection against the udder issues. I saw a group of Graham cows bought fairly blindly for type and solely on high EPDs. They were the ones that money had to be there to buy. Of the 14 or so, one had a great udder. I would have culled the 13. That program was interesting in all of the ebbs and flows, evolution, dropping of lines and building of lines it had over the years. It is cheaper to learn from others and history. But good udders are worth the effort to avoid the bad ones. What amazes me the most about the Graham herd: nobody made an effort to preserve much of it or to fully copy cat the breeding. There was Angus politics that influenced some of that but overall the cattle held demand most years but just never had whatever it takes for folks to want to breed them as they were. And to be perfectly honest, they were not fescue based cattle and in our area some struggled and fell out. It is just the way it is or was. I am sampling a straight Graham bred bull this time on some heifers. He did well but in the same region, soils and forages as Graham. We'll see. |
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