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Concrete
Jul 25, 2019 18:30:41 GMT -6
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Post by cross on Jul 25, 2019 18:30:41 GMT -6
Back patio has some big cracks. Previous owner tried to cover it up with outdoor carpet but that looks like crap.
Some of the cracks are big enough to stick you finger in the cracks.
I have room to pour 4” over the top.
Can I pour right over the top or does the cracks need to be cut out and patched first ?
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Concrete
Jul 25, 2019 18:41:48 GMT -6
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Post by 3LT Farms on Jul 25, 2019 18:41:48 GMT -6
Why did the slab crack in the first place? If there is any settling I would fix that first. If it cracked due to normal expansion I would think you could pour right over it. Maybe others will chime in.
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Concrete
Jul 25, 2019 18:47:22 GMT -6
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Post by cross on Jul 25, 2019 18:47:22 GMT -6
I don’t know for sure. Oklahoma red clay that expands when wet and shrinks up when dry I’d guess. Parts of Oklahoma are notorious for cracked slaps, busted water lines and etc.
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Post by M-5 on Jul 25, 2019 19:58:03 GMT -6
Use cattle panels for your wire and like cth said cut stress joints in it
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Post by ebenezer on Jul 25, 2019 20:01:56 GMT -6
If clay is shrink and swell type the cracks will make the top coat crack too unless you do a great reinforcement job. The best and expensive way would be to take out the old and put a layer of gravel, then plastic and then reinforced concrete with expansion joints and/or cut joints.
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Concrete
Jul 25, 2019 20:03:52 GMT -6
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Post by cross on Jul 25, 2019 20:03:52 GMT -6
Thanks
What about filling the cracks and tiling it with the big 18”x18” tile/slate. Reckon that’s work ?
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Post by workinonit on Jul 25, 2019 20:22:10 GMT -6
Thanks What about filling the cracks and tiling it with the big 18”x18” tile/slate. Reckon that’s work ? It is likely that the slates/tiles/pavers will eventually crack as well because the underlying issue has not been resolved. Unless, perhaps if you cut-in a few expansion joints in the existing concrete patio using a chop saw or something similar, then installed your overlay material while incorporating the expansion joints, then it may last without additional cracks. Clear as mud?
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Concrete
Jul 26, 2019 0:11:40 GMT -6
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Jul 26, 2019 0:11:40 GMT -6
Might be wet/dry cycles. But it might be secondary to earthquake as well. Our house didn't have a crack in the foundation when we bought it. I think it was 15 years old then. 4 years later there were cracks everywhere and nails coming out of the ceiling/walls in several rooms. We had some pretty good jolts a few times.
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Concrete
Jul 26, 2019 5:22:05 GMT -6
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Post by JMJ on Jul 26, 2019 5:22:05 GMT -6
If you have minimal or no settling, you can fill in the cracks with hydraulic cement. Super strong. Gotta work fast. Then go back and cut expansion joints with a concrete saw. As a general rule it’s very hard to keep concrete from cracking. The best thing you can do is give it somewhere to crack. The best thing you can do when pouring new concrete is, as soon as it hardens to the touch, keep it wet for about a week or so. Makes it dry slower. And here, I never add calcium. It makes it dry too fast. If you decide to pour over your existing pad, I would still fill in existing cracks with hydraulic cement first. Then pour your new pad and cut expansion joints in it. Hard to say without seeing what you’ve got now, but there’s a good chance you can patch it and then tile or stone over it. But again it’s hard to say.
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Post by greybeard on Jul 26, 2019 9:04:23 GMT -6
Build a wooden or fake wood deck a few inches above it.
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Post by hughespieds on Jul 26, 2019 19:00:34 GMT -6
Disclaimer: I ain't no concrete guy!
I have the same issue with my carport. Had a guy look at it a few years back and he said he would fill in the cracks with (forgot the material name) and pour 2" of reinforced (fabric type of stuff) concrete over the top. Since dry doesn't stick to wet concrete he said the new pour would basically float on the old and wouldn't crack easily. All that sounded good, but he nor I could verify his claim and I didn't do it. I kinda wish I had now because it ain't gettin' no better.
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Concrete
Jul 26, 2019 19:26:28 GMT -6
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Post by cross on Jul 26, 2019 19:26:28 GMT -6
The plan is to cut out the cracks and patch with hydraulic cement. I’m undecided on pouring over the top or tiling. Tiling would look better but harder to keep clean.
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Concrete
Jul 26, 2019 19:33:42 GMT -6
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Post by cross on Jul 26, 2019 19:33:42 GMT -6
I probably should have taken before pic but remember the 90’s with drop ceilings with the fluorescent lights up tabove with translucent panels ? I spent the whole day tearing it out in shorts and flip flops. I’ve been cut and stabbed all over and may have eye damage and need a tetanus shot. One bathroom complete and one in progress plus the patio. When I die someone will have a really nice house 😆
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Post by greybeard on Jul 26, 2019 23:53:07 GMT -6
I’ve been cut and stabbed all over and may have eye damage and need a tetanus shot. Yeah...I had a couple of ex girlfriends like that too.....
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Concrete
Jul 27, 2019 3:39:07 GMT -6
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Post by cross on Jul 27, 2019 3:39:07 GMT -6
I’d take one of those right now if she was a good carpenter
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