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Post by backhoeboogie on Aug 14, 2019 9:23:42 GMT -6
Dad would be framing. All I needed to know was which wall was first. I'd start hauling studs and laying them out. I knew exactly how he put in window bucks. Door bucks. It was all routine. One wall goes up, its time to start laying out the next wall. Anticipating every move he was going to make. Came home from Washington state one summer and my little brother was helping. He had to be told to bring studs, get nails, everything. No anticipation. He had to be told every move. I couldn't believe it. We grew up eating the same food. There is a difference in help.
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Post by hook on Aug 14, 2019 9:45:40 GMT -6
Anticipating needs of the job is one of the least recognized skills.
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Post by Allenw on Aug 14, 2019 9:54:35 GMT -6
Dad would be framing. All I needed to know was which wall was first. I'd start hauling studs and laying them out. I knew exactly how he put in window bucks. Door bucks. It was all routine. One wall goes up, its time to start laying out the next wall. Anticipating every move he was going to make. Came home from Washington state one summer and my little brother was helping. He had to be told to bring studs, get nails, everything. No anticipation. He had to be told every move. I couldn't believe it. We grew up eating the same food. There is a difference in help. I have one of them brothers, he knows whats done but clueless about the basics. There's people right in in this small town that can't believe my wife's sister is really her sistet. I married the good one. |
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Post by jehosofat on Aug 14, 2019 10:33:35 GMT -6
I have a sister and two brothers, my sister and I never stop working, the two brothers are lazy as shit. My mother was hard on me, my dad was hard on my sister. They coddled both of the other two.
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Post by backhoeboogie on Aug 14, 2019 10:55:21 GMT -6
Anticipating needs of the job is one of the least recognized skills. I suppose the people who don't anticipate have to be told every move. They likely call their leader a hard ass. |
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Post by greybeard on Aug 14, 2019 13:08:58 GMT -6
I had the best helper there ever was..tho about 1/2 the time I was his helper. Neither of us ever had to say anything to the other. We just 'knew'.
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Post by alacowman on Aug 14, 2019 13:55:38 GMT -6
I'm not talking about co-ops in particular cross, but didn't the guys know what the pay was when they took to positions? If ya take a job, and know up front what the pay is, then it's incumbent on the worker to give his full measure for what he agreed to work for. Of course, that's a work ethic I developed early in my life.......was getting paid about $145/month to get shot at, but I knew exactly what the job entailed and what the pay was when i signed on the line. It's one of those "ride for the brand" things I guess, but it's served me well for a lifetime. cowboyaccountant.com/2018/06/13/ride-for-the-brand/Most of the guys that work at our co.ops..have to be shown how to get home and back the next morning.. |
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Post by d2cat on Aug 16, 2019 20:03:52 GMT -6
I think one of the benefits of participating in organized sports to learning to anticipate what's next. When I'm working with someone I always remind them to ask themselves, "what's next", if they're not competent.
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Post by okie on Aug 16, 2019 20:47:11 GMT -6
I think part of it is being a decent fit with whatever occupation you've chosen. I've helped gather and brand, work cattle, etc. on places where none of us had ever worked together and you'd think we had worked together for years because we all "get it" but if you stuck me in a construction job I'd still be the new guy after twenty years if they were dumb enough to let me stay.
With my own kids to this day I can tell my daughter to feed, doctor something, go look at this or that and let me know and it's as good as me doing it myself but I have to check up behind my son. He'll do his best but he doesn't "get it". The opposite is true with anything mechanical or yard work, etc. I have to pick and choose their talents.
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Post by ebenezer on Aug 17, 2019 7:41:32 GMT -6
Knowing what to do with anticipation is the trait of a great herding dog. If we can train them, or as I say, if they can train us, why can people not be trained? I don't know?
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Post by cottagefarm on Aug 17, 2019 8:51:19 GMT -6
I think part of it is being a decent fit with whatever occupation you've chosen. I've helped gather and brand, work cattle, etc. on places where none of us had ever worked together and you'd think we had worked together for years because we all "get it" but if you stuck me in a construction job I'd still be the new guy after twenty years if they were dumb enough to let me stay. With my own kids to this day I can tell my daughter to feed, doctor something, go look at this or that and let me know and it's as good as me doing it myself but I have to check up behind my son. He'll do his best but he doesn't "get it". The opposite is true with anything mechanical or yard work, etc. I have to pick and choose their talents. Yup, people need to find what comes naturally to them, and they actually enjoy doing whatever it is they do. And recognizing and understanding those attributes is the most important aspect of being a people manager.
The best bosses I ever had were the ones who were willing to turn me loose and let me do what I was good at. Didn't make me punch a timeclock. If I was late, no big deal because I wasn't looking at the clock at quitting time. I stayed til I was done. And that was what I looked for in an employee as well. I didn't care if they were 15 minutes late, (with the exception that they could never keep a customer waiting) as long as they were good and got the job done and made our customers happy. Our employees were a huge part of the reason we worked almost exclusively by referral and never had to spend a penny on advertising.
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Post by cowrancher75 on Aug 17, 2019 12:44:55 GMT -6
Knowing what to do with anticipation is the trait of a great herding dog. If we can train them, or as I say, if they can train us, why can people not be trained? I don't know? is that a st criox ram? |
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Post by ebenezer on Aug 17, 2019 17:52:27 GMT -6
Knowing what to do with anticipation is the trait of a great herding dog. If we can train them, or as I say, if they can train us, why can people not be trained? I don't know? is that a st criox ram? Yes. But not the run of the mill ram. I've selected for growth and adequate muscling in rams. |
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