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Post by the illustrious potentate on Aug 14, 2019 20:08:21 GMT -6
Anyone have recommendations for a good place to order from?
Thinking about putting in some peach, and pear trees this fall. Used to have a farm with some really small pears that were great. Always heard them called honey pears, but I dont think that's the right name.
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Post by okie on Aug 14, 2019 20:22:50 GMT -6
Raintree nursery has always been decent. They have lots of funky stuff that you won't find very often. Sometimes the tree quality is so so but they have whatever you're looking for. They would be my go to for the pears. Peaceful valley farm supply is good and the quality of their trees is excellent. You might try some asian pears. They've been one of the easiest trees to grow here in Oklahoma for me and far and away my heaviest crop. The spicezee nectaplums have also done well here. They are about as easy to grow as it gets and just about everyone's favorite to eat. Plus you can eat them from barely blushing to overripe. Make sure on pears and apples that you get compatible varieties for cross pollination.
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Aug 14, 2019 20:48:07 GMT -6
Appreciate the information. Spicezee nectaplums are now on the list. 👍
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Aug 14, 2019 21:23:36 GMT -6
Might be known as a "Sugar Pear" tree. But what I've found so far is a dwarf variety.
The tree I'm referring to was very expansive. But probably planted shortly after the place was homesteaded in the 20's or 30's.
Might be how things are sweeter in a memory, but I remember I and my dog eating enough to make ourselves sick on them more than a time or two. Sure like to find one again.
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Post by okie on Aug 15, 2019 5:27:14 GMT -6
It might be the same variety, just grafted onto dwarf rootstock. If tree size matters you can graft it on to standard rootstock.
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Aug 15, 2019 5:34:16 GMT -6
I didn't realize the roots they graft onto determines the size. I figured it was genetics.
Edit: genetics of the bloom on top. But I guess it makes sense that there has to be a sufficient root system to support the growth on top.
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Post by ebenezer on Aug 15, 2019 5:53:36 GMT -6
I didn't realize the roots they graft onto determines the size. I figured it was genetics. You need to be somewhat selective on rootstocks for your soil and your regional disease load. If the variety you want is an heirloom or regional, look up NAFEX on a search and they have volunteer specialists by species. They are laymen but can be very helpful.
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Aug 15, 2019 6:48:21 GMT -6
That's a cool resource Ebenezer, thanks!
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Post by M-5 on Aug 15, 2019 6:55:38 GMT -6
I have always been fascinated with grafting , 20 years ago there was a satsuma tree grafted on a lemon here. It was several years old and cold killed it back . I transplanted it to another location and winter kill was bad for about 15 years . Never had a bloom until 2 years ago and it made about 5 lemons . Last year about 10 and this year it's loaded . It's old fashion variety and they are about the size of base. balls. I'm going to try and graft a satsuma back to one of the main limbs this winter.
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Post by 3LT Farms on Aug 15, 2019 7:00:52 GMT -6
Had 5 pecan trees on this place growing up that we're supposedly grafted onto a hickory stump. Made real good nuts until age caught up with them. My grandfather said he never seen a difference in size of those trees the last 50 some odd years of his life, No telling how old they were. I'll try and find a picture of one.
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Post by okie on Aug 15, 2019 7:46:23 GMT -6
I didn't realize the roots they graft onto determines the size. I figured it was genetics. Edit: genetics of the bloom on top. But I guess it makes sense that there has to be a sufficient root system to support the growth on top. It will change the fruit a little but not enough to make a big difference. I shoot for semi-dwarf. That's usually the most productive tree. I used to grow rootstock too so that when I needed a tree I could just make my own but finally decided thirty bucks isn't to big of a deal.
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Mar 10, 2020 21:51:17 GMT -6
About waited too late to get an order, but still found some.
Most of the trees say they need well drained soil. The place I was thinking about planting them is on a slope, so water won't stand.
There's run off from a tank that's on a timer, so there's a little water that runs off down a small ditch about daily. Thinking of planting them a few feet off of that ditch.
I thought that might be enough to keep them going, but not too much to cause root rot. Am I wrong in thinking that?
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Post by farmerjan on Mar 14, 2020 15:33:18 GMT -6
My grandfather said a seckel pear was the best, sweetest pear. They are small and often called a dessert pear here.
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