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Sept 11, 2019 20:59:21 GMT -6
Post by dave on Sept 11, 2019 20:59:21 GMT -6
The wolves aren't here yet. They are however getting way too close. A rancher with range not more than 10 or 12 miles as the crow flies from here has lost 3 cows and 7 calves to wolves. One of the cows was a confirmed wolf kill. Another was suspected but not confirmed by the game dept. The other was just too far gone when they found her to prove the cause of death. The 7 calves, well they just disappeared. There is 7 first calvers with various stages of drying up. They do have a pack of wolves on game cameras. They raise some high dollar quarter horses. The mares and foals run in this pasture. No horses dead or missing but they were spooky as all get out and have run through fences. I heard that they pulled the horses but I don't know what option they have with the cattle. There is a reason that the old timers wiped out the wolves and kept the mountain lions in check. All the city people over in Portland think large predators are a good thing. We need to take a truck load or two over to their neighborhood.
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Wolves
Sept 12, 2019 5:23:06 GMT -6
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Post by bulltrader on Sept 12, 2019 5:23:06 GMT -6
I bet if a wolf caught their house cat they would want them all killed.
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Post by ebenezer on Sept 12, 2019 6:25:33 GMT -6
The restoration of wildlife species is a warped deal. You could take a map of the USA or anywhere, mark the home or apartment location of any activist or do-gooder and show what species of lizard, bird or beast they have displaced and demand that they move to a houseboat on the ocean so that their home and yard can be demolished and restored to wildlife habitat. And if you are so gun-ho on wildlife displacement, deal with all of the man made lakes and whatever else has been used to allow urban living which also displace wildlife. When you get the whole list and the entire population is guilty then what do you do? I guess you do like Bernie and start eating your neighbors to get them to quit being the problem and hope that once you are full and happy somebody comes up and knocks you in the head and eats you to make you less intrusive. Bernie's idea is a rerun. We had to read a literary classic "A Modest Proposal" decades ago that was written in Britian, I think, as satire.
The east is plagued with the "red Wolf restoration" which has been shown to not be a species but a cross of dog, coyote and wolf. The pushers of the plan have hidden the truth for years and will not admit that the DNA testing proves the species to be a sham. What's new in politics? Not much as old lies can be recycled.
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Oct 17, 2019 12:08:55 GMT -6
Post by greybeard on Oct 17, 2019 12:08:55 GMT -6
I'm not at all sure I would recognize a wolf if I saw one, but I saw what I thought was the biggest grey coyote walk out of the woods and just stare at me on the tractor last week. When I pushed the clutch in and stopped, he just turned and went back into the woods. It's head and muzzle just didn't look right for a coyote, but I've never heard of any wolves around here..
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Wolves
Oct 21, 2019 20:12:29 GMT -6
Post by Jake on Oct 21, 2019 20:12:29 GMT -6
Wolves are the one predator that I have a real problem with. Bears and cats are pretty easy to control if allowed to do so. Wolves are flat out hard to kill and manage. I’d personally rather have grizzlies than wolves to deal with. The landscape has been changed enough to a point that most of these city folks that want “nature” to take care of itself have no comprehension. There is no going back to the days of old, there’s pockets of country that can be “close” but most places aren’t suitable as the chances of human conflict are too great.
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Oct 22, 2019 6:16:54 GMT -6
Post by angusrancher on Oct 22, 2019 6:16:54 GMT -6
Wolves are the one predator that I have a real problem with. Bears and cats are pretty easy to control if allowed to do so. Wolves are flat out hard to kill and manage. I’d personally rather have grizzlies than wolves to deal with. The landscape has been changed enough to a point that most of these city folks that want “nature” to take care of itself have no comprehension. There is no going back to the days of old, there’s pockets of country that can be “close” but most places aren’t suitable as the chances of human conflict are too great. We generally have a couple of cat kills every year. Haven't found any this year, but if they don't happen near the HQ the odds of finding are slim. The cats are tough as hell to spot and get rid of.....besides some legal gray area. I think I've only actually seen one, some of the neighbors 1 or 2, my son's seen a couple. |
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Wolves
Oct 22, 2019 6:19:55 GMT -6
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Post by Jake on Oct 22, 2019 6:19:55 GMT -6
Wolves are the one predator that I have a real problem with. Bears and cats are pretty easy to control if allowed to do so. Wolves are flat out hard to kill and manage. I’d personally rather have grizzlies than wolves to deal with. The landscape has been changed enough to a point that most of these city folks that want “nature” to take care of itself have no comprehension. There is no going back to the days of old, there’s pockets of country that can be “close” but most places aren’t suitable as the chances of human conflict are too great. We generally have a couple of cat kills every year. Haven't found any this year, but if they don't happen near the HQ the odds of finding are slim. The cats are tough as hell to spot and get rid of.....besides some legal gray area. I think I've only actually seen one, some of the neighbors 1 or 2, my son's seen a couple. I hear cats are good eating. Think it would be fun to take one and try it. |
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Oct 22, 2019 6:48:58 GMT -6
Post by tcranch on Oct 22, 2019 6:48:58 GMT -6
Wolves are the one predator that I have a real problem with. Bears and cats are pretty easy to control if allowed to do so. Wolves are flat out hard to kill and manage. I’d personally rather have grizzlies than wolves to deal with. The landscape has been changed enough to a point that most of these city folks that want “nature” to take care of itself have no comprehension. There is no going back to the days of old, there’s pockets of country that can be “close” but most places aren’t suitable as the chances of human conflict are too great. We generally have a couple of cat kills every year. Haven't found any this year, but if they don't happen near the HQ the odds of finding are slim. The cats are tough as hell to spot and get rid of.....besides some legal gray area. I think I've only actually seen one, some of the neighbors 1 or 2, my son's seen a couple. I honestly didn't realize there were wolves in northern/western KS. Are they tagged or chipped like a lot of the mountain lions? |
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Oct 22, 2019 9:34:19 GMT -6
Post by dave on Oct 22, 2019 9:34:19 GMT -6
We generally have a couple of cat kills every year. Haven't found any this year, but if they don't happen near the HQ the odds of finding are slim. The cats are tough as hell to spot and get rid of.....besides some legal gray area. I think I've only actually seen one, some of the neighbors 1 or 2, my son's seen a couple. I hear cats are good eating. Think it would be fun to take one and try it. I have eaten mountain lion. It is pretty good. It doesn't compete with a good corn fed rib eye but it is worth eating. I have way too many cats here. They have been pretty hard on the deer population. Last winter I found 5 cat kills within 500 yards of the house. The closest one was only about 150 yards from the back door. And I am not up on that hill that much during the winter. One of the neighbors had a man in trapping coyotes. He quit trapping there because every time he caught a coyote a lion came in and ate it out of his trap. This winter I have to get serious about killing a lion or two. |
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Post by deepsouth on Nov 13, 2019 8:32:27 GMT -6
I'm not at all sure I would recognize a wolf if I saw one, but I saw what I thought was the biggest grey coyote walk out of the woods and just stare at me on the tractor last week. When I pushed the clutch in and stopped, he just turned and went back into the woods. It's head and muzzle just didn't look right for a coyote, but I've never heard of any wolves around here.. probably a coydog. they are usually bigger and colored differently that coyotes. |
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Nov 20, 2019 9:00:43 GMT -6
Post by greybeard on Nov 20, 2019 9:00:43 GMT -6
Might be DS. The coyotes generally make a wide loop around my place but I have seen some at the edge of the woodline looking in.
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Wolves
Dec 4, 2019 9:41:32 GMT -6
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Dec 4, 2019 9:41:32 GMT -6
We had a few mixes when I was young that sure looked intimidating.
Guy came out and trapped 29 coyotes on a half section last year over winter. You sure cant tell it this fall.
People used to keep them in check but not anymore. Figure that's part of the reason we dont have a good quail population anymore.
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Dec 9, 2019 8:53:54 GMT -6
Post by Jake on Dec 9, 2019 8:53:54 GMT -6
We had a few mixes when I was young that sure looked intimidating. Guy came out and trapped 29 coyotes on a half section last year over winter. You sure cant tell it this fall. People used to keep them in check but not anymore. Figure that's part of the reason we dont have a good quail population anymore. Coyotes have an interesting biology, they have the ability to increase litter size if the female doesn't get responses to their howls. You can shoot them all out and they'll spread like wildfire back in. |
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Dec 9, 2019 18:25:06 GMT -6
Post by birddog on Dec 9, 2019 18:25:06 GMT -6
A lot of times the worst thing you can do is clear out all the coyotes. What replaces them may be way worse. A trapper once told me if the coyotes I have are not bothering my cattle, leave them be. Others will move in and may become a problem. Nature abhors a vacuum.
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Dec 9, 2019 22:37:49 GMT -6
Post by dave on Dec 9, 2019 22:37:49 GMT -6
The coyotes get thinned out pretty good around here this time of the year. The snow pushes everything down into the valley. And I think everyone has a gun in their truck. And it is pretty open. There are a few trees along the river but sooner or later they are going to be out in the open and shots will be fired.
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