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Post by M-5 on Dec 5, 2019 9:35:52 GMT -6
I am starting a thread dedicated to this sham. Post links and your opinion. Better have your facts straight cause this bunch will eat your ass alive.
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Post by M-5 on Dec 5, 2019 9:38:45 GMT -6
I say they should vote today and let's start Senate trial Monday. Bring the whole bunch responsible in to testify.
I am beginning to think it's actually going to be a narrow margin in the house. I'm sure some of the Dems are seriously considering oppose it.
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Dec 5, 2019 15:36:52 GMT -6
Sessions has an interesting take, he thinks it's just a show.
Wonder if the dems were forced to vote for impeachment today, December 5th?
From what I read, it leaked that the Senate had the month of January already wiped clean like they knew the timing...
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Dec 5, 2019 16:45:17 GMT -6
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Post by randy on Dec 5, 2019 17:37:59 GMT -6
I think they need to get on with it, thats where they are headed anyway. The day the trial in the Senate starts we will see just how crooked they are.
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Post by hughespieds on Dec 5, 2019 18:00:27 GMT -6
My guess is they need to make their smoke screen last until closer to the election. Personally, I'm thinking there should be tighter reins on both houses so they won't be so eager to abuse the system.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 18:58:20 GMT -6
Seems to if he's guilty he should be punished. Don't get me wrong, I'm a dyed in the wool conservative voter, if I was American I'd vote GOP. But if you don't follow the rules you need to pay the price. Regardless of party. Because someone in one party got away with something does not mean it's now okay for someone in your party of choice to get away with it. I always feel it's more important to hold the people within the party you support to a higher standard than that of the parties you do not support. Just sayin'.
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Post by angusrancher on Dec 5, 2019 19:21:06 GMT -6
Seems to if he's guilty he should be punished. Don't get me wrong, I'm a dyed in the wool conservative voter, if I was American I'd vote GOP. But if you don't follow the rules you need to pay the price. Regardless of party. Because someone in one party got away with something does not mean it's now okay for someone in your party of choice to get away with it. I always feel it's more important to hold the people within the party you support to a higher standard than that of the parties you do not support. Just sayin'. If any of the left's star witnesses can just come up with something he's guilty of, besides their hurt feelings and hatred of Trump, which translates to hatred of all of us "deplorables". I think Republicans have finally figured out that they need to stop cutting off their own dicks for the sake of appeasement.
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Post by M-5 on Dec 5, 2019 19:39:02 GMT -6
Seems to if he's guilty he should be punished. Don't get me wrong, I'm a dyed in the wool conservative voter, if I was American I'd vote GOP. But if you don't follow the rules you need to pay the price. Regardless of party. Because someone in one party got away with something does not mean it's now okay for someone in your party of choice to get away with it. I always feel it's more important to hold the people within the party you support to a higher standard than that of the parties you do not support. Just sayin'. I agree if he had of done something wrong. There has been no crime committed. They announced in January of 17 after inauguration that they were going to impeach him. It is apparent that are throwing everything against the wall and hoping something sticks. They are scared of what he is going to expose.
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Dec 5, 2019 21:04:15 GMT -6
Seems to if he's guilty he should be punished. Don't get me wrong, I'm a dyed in the wool conservative voter, if I was American I'd vote GOP. But if you don't follow the rules you need to pay the price. Regardless of party. Because someone in one party got away with something does not mean it's now okay for someone in your party of choice to get away with it. I always feel it's more important to hold the people within the party you support to a higher standard than that of the parties you do not support. Just sayin'. Equal treatment under the law is what this is about, not one party, group of people or one individual being treated as if they are above the law. In such, no group of people should be allowed to go outside of that same body of recognized law to abuse government resources/agencies in an attempt to overturn a lawful election because they dont agree with the results. Which is actually codified in the law as treason and carries a specified punishment if convicted. I think while we are examining the law for breaches made during this administration, we should examine not only the President as appears to have been examined quite thoroughly to this point, but also those that have appeared to have spied unconstitutionally upon him prior to even having been elected, and those that have worked to unseat him in all means that are outside of the rule of law. When any breaches are found on either side, that the rule of law is applied equally, blindly and thoroughly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 21:44:44 GMT -6
Seems to if he's guilty he should be punished. Don't get me wrong, I'm a dyed in the wool conservative voter, if I was American I'd vote GOP. But if you don't follow the rules you need to pay the price. Regardless of party. Because someone in one party got away with something does not mean it's now okay for someone in your party of choice to get away with it. I always feel it's more important to hold the people within the party you support to a higher standard than that of the parties you do not support. Just sayin'. Equal treatment under the law is what this is about, not one party, group of people or one individual being treated as if they are above the law. In such, no group of people should be allowed to go outside of that same body of recognized law to abuse government resources/agencies in an attempt to overturn a lawful election because they dont agree with the results. Which is actually codified in the law as treason and carries a specified punishment if convicted. I think while we are examining the law for breaches made during this administration, we should examine not only the President as appears to have been examined quite thoroughly to this point, but also those that have appeared to have spied unconstitutionally upon him prior to even having been elected, and those that have worked to unseat him in all means that are outside of the rule of law. When any breaches are found on either side, that the rule of law is applied equally, blindly and thoroughly. Pretty much my thoughts. Hang all that need hanging. Be it Hillary or Donnie, or anyone in between should they be found in contravention of the laws of the land. These things should not be partisan in nature.
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Post by chuckie on Dec 6, 2019 6:53:46 GMT -6
After listening to the democrats say they will continue to impeach Donald Trump after the Senate gives him the pass that he deserves, they will continue to impeach after that. The people that continue to spoil his presidency should not slide on this. I suppose they are afraid that the new law will be where they cannot take bribes and money the way they have always done, and that Trump will begin to call out the corruptness of each elected official. It is very obvious why they are trying to stop him.
It is amazing how lawyers and doctors drop their jobs to become a blood sucking politician.
I feel the people need to drag those people out of Washington in what ever way they choose. I suppose many of these people have dreamed of becoming a corrupt politician since they were kids. Now Trump might be taking it all away and they have to earn money the old fashioned way.
Surely the people will remove them from office as they destroy us. If not, then our country is aimed for corruption as bad as Venezuela and other third world countries where the politicians gather all the money in as the people starve and are killed by gangs of thugs that take over. All of this makes me so very sick to watch.
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Post by Allenw on Dec 6, 2019 7:43:37 GMT -6
I haven't been keeping up with the impeachment circus, they haven't presented any with any merit yet that is worthy of impeachment. I believe the opposition thought they had this past presidential election in the bag then the lost it. They're still trying to figure out how to get back control and don't have a clue about the people who support Trump or how to deal with us. Right now all they are doing is exposing their true selves for what they are a bunch of self centered elitist that are out of touch.
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Post by ebenezer on Dec 6, 2019 8:23:19 GMT -6
Don't worry, Nancy is praying for the Prez every night right after she prays for the little kids that she helped abort that day. A big hearted woman, that Nancy. It will be good to get the testimony of the Dems during the trial so that they can indict each other. Somehow they have not figured out that the trial will actually be for them and not exclusively for the president.
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Post by chuckie on Dec 6, 2019 9:37:16 GMT -6
I would be so afraid if I were a Democrat for this Impeachment to reach the Senate. I am getting a feeling that Trump and his group at this very moment gathering as much corruption (draining the swamp) as they can to blast the democrats when they take over. Then Trump can say that he is praying for Pelosi as she has been whipping the democrats into this frenzy.
So, Biden says he won't show up for the hearing??? To hear him tell the man at his town hall meeting that no one has said that he and his son have done anything wrong according to Ukraine.
There was a certain month that Trey Gowdy said he could join Trump's team. Does anyone remember when that was? If he is still going to join them, I am sure that he is digging behind the scenes for this.
I want the Republicans to do a Full Nelson on the Democrats for dragging the nation through this.
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