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Post by cowrancher75 on Feb 2, 2020 6:13:38 GMT -6
they want you to be a vegan so you don't have the will or energy to fight back.. look at 95% of them.. they look like they'd die after a few hours of hard work.
it doesn't matter.. africa giving birth at 7 babies per woman they are taking over the entire planet in a few generations anyway.
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Post by kycowboy on Feb 2, 2020 15:54:45 GMT -6
Several guys at work have a disease from ticks that makes them sick when they eat red meat. They love the impossible burgers, it's as close as they can get. I think it's called alpha Gael
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Feb 2, 2020 20:26:36 GMT -6
Must be a real hot pocket of those allergy causing ticks for so many at one place of employment to share a vector born disease...would be on the order of a bunch of guys sharing lymes disease. Can happen, but just not that likely.
Secondarily, when beef allergies from ticks does occur, wonder what would potentially cause such a reaction in the body? Maybe a foreign antigen injected into the body by the vector (tick) that is similar enough in nature to some aspect of beef to cause antibodies to recocognize and attack beef in the intestinal track? I think I'd be pissed at the jackasses that were screwing around in labs to create such ticks that I wouldn't be a Moron to voluntarily double down and ingest (being your own vector) a bunch more shit made of unknown and unverified protein sequencing created in a lab.
Lol, promotional anecdotes and .50 cents used to get you a grape soda. Now, it wont get you shit.
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Post by bulltrader on Feb 2, 2020 20:32:25 GMT -6
The ticks in eastern VA seem to carry it bad. None here yet. But I am sending work pants to be treated to help prevent getting the ticks on me.
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Feb 2, 2020 21:08:51 GMT -6
The ticks in eastern VA seem to carry it bad. None here yet. But I am sending work pants to be treated to help prevent getting the ticks on me. "None here yet".... that's half my point, it's not something that has been in existence for a long time that was just discovered. It's a phenomenon that is new and is spreading in a similar style as Lymes did. And like lymes disease, there are areas with increased concentration of positive ticks. You are all over the country, how many groups that you work with do you know have numerous people that share lymes disease? It can happen, but it isn't very common, my other point.
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Post by bulltrader on Feb 2, 2020 21:22:33 GMT -6
Seems like this is much worse. Yes we have a few that have had Lyme's but this one is spreading fast. Every employee we have in the state has the option of getting pants treated to try to keep it from happening.
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Post by smokinm on Feb 2, 2020 22:22:27 GMT -6
I have Alpha Gal and it sucks! I haven’t tried the impossible burger but I am getting desperate so make break down and do it.
The tick injects you with a sugar found in mammal fat (except primates so I can eat people and monkeys) and you develop an allergy to that. You can’t eat any mammals other than primates not just beef. It is spreading like wildfire in central/southeastern VA and NC. Some say it is not permanent but still a lot of unknown about it. I get re tested in about 2 months. Have several friends with it and seems to be pretty permanent in them. Also every bite from an infected tick is potential to reinfect. They think the lone star tick is the carrier but now are leaning towards others being able to carry it.
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Post by greybeard on Feb 3, 2020 1:33:06 GMT -6
Yep..the Lone Star tick 'can' carry it but not all do. Don't know where the tick gets it from. They believe it first showed up in goats before the ticks got it but not enough research done to verify that. It's all over the place...
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Post by cowrancher75 on Feb 3, 2020 5:45:45 GMT -6
can't get people to stop eating meat so they'll create a disease for it..
wow.
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Post by angusrancher on Feb 3, 2020 7:04:48 GMT -6
I have Alpha Gal and it sucks! I haven’t tried the impossible burger but I am getting desperate so make break down and do it. The tick injects you with a sugar found in mammal fat (except primates so I can eat people and monkeys) and you develop an allergy to that. You can’t eat any mammals other than primates not just beef. It is spreading like wildfire in central/southeastern VA and NC. Some say it is not permanent but still a lot of unknown about it. I get re tested in about 2 months. Have several friends with it and seems to be pretty permanent in them. Also every bite from an infected tick is potential to reinfect. They think the lone star tick is the carrier but now are leaning towards others being able to carry it. That would be awful. Certainly hope it's not permanent for you.
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Post by tcranch on Feb 3, 2020 7:44:30 GMT -6
I have Alpha Gal and it sucks! I haven’t tried the impossible burger but I am getting desperate so make break down and do it. The tick injects you with a sugar found in mammal fat (except primates so I can eat people and monkeys) and you develop an allergy to that. You can’t eat any mammals other than primates not just beef. It is spreading like wildfire in central/southeastern VA and NC. Some say it is not permanent but still a lot of unknown about it. I get re tested in about 2 months. Have several friends with it and seems to be pretty permanent in them. Also every bite from an infected tick is potential to reinfect. They think the lone star tick is the carrier but now are leaning towards others being able to carry it. That would be awful. Certainly hope it's not permanent for you. Yes, the lone star tick and the disease is Southern Tick Associated Rash Illness (STARI). Similar symptoms to Lyme. And the first time my husband has ever seen me cry in pain. I got lucky and did not develop Alpha Gal and I saw recently they were working on (trial testing) an antibiotic cure.
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Post by okie on Feb 3, 2020 11:10:15 GMT -6
I know several people that have been diagnosed with it within the last two years here. I'm told this is a hotspot for it with much higher than average infection rates.
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Post by chuckie on Feb 3, 2020 14:12:39 GMT -6
If the tick causes red meat to be an allergy to those that eat it, what does it to to dogs or cats? Or any other scavenger or animal that eats red meat? Does it only effect humans?
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Post by greybeard on Feb 3, 2020 15:30:55 GMT -6
That would be awful. Certainly hope it's not permanent for you. Yes, the lone star tick and the disease is Southern Tick Associated Rash Illness (STARI). Similar symptoms to Lyme. And the first time my husband has ever seen me cry in pain. I got lucky and did not develop Alpha Gal and I saw recently they were working on (trial testing) an antibiotic cure. As I understand it, STARI and Alpha Gal are 2 different things. Both transmitted by the same ticks, but still 'different'. STARI is believed to be caused caused by a spirochete B. lonestari, but research hasn't proven that conclusively. Alpha Gal is an allergic reaction where a naturally occurring human antibody reacts to carbohydrate Galactose-alpha-1,3-galactose...'over-reacts' may be a better description.
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Post by smokinm on Feb 3, 2020 17:26:14 GMT -6
75 you need to take a layer or two of tinfoil off your hat bud. I like a conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but this isn’t lab created. It has been around for a long time but they didn’t know what it was or how to test for it until a few years ago. It has also been found in Australia and a few other countries as well if I remember correctly.
Chuckle it doesn’t affect them because they have alpha gal in their body already. It is in all mammals except primates, that’s why we can develop an allergy, we don’t have it in our body.
I hope they either find a cure or it isn’t permanent too. I would pass up a million dollars to go back to eating cheeseburgers and bbq ribs again. I got a whole field full of cows and cant eat them it SUCKS!
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