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Post by greybeard on Jan 31, 2020 0:10:49 GMT -6
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Post by Nesikep on Jan 31, 2020 3:06:45 GMT -6
I'm in some anti-vegan facebook groups and see the posts, dumb doesn't even begin to describe them
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Post by angusrancher on Jan 31, 2020 6:26:25 GMT -6
The impressionable school age children that are being indoctrinated with the whole vegan nonsense is particularly troubling. I wish the beef groups were doing more to combat the fake meat thing. NCBA has came out with good information, but I worry that it's just more preaching to the choir if the message isn't adequately put out there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 8:39:41 GMT -6
A lot of good information in that article, and the one that follows it. I should take notes for my next argument with my BIL.
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Post by brightraven on Jan 31, 2020 8:56:49 GMT -6
The "fake" meat" industry is here as long as economics drive it. More properly defined as synthetic meats using cheaper protein sources.
It is just simply economics. Good business minds will find ways to make money. Large animal protein is expensive to produce. As beef producers, we are getting raped. We Will Never Get What Our Beef Is Worth. There Is Too Much Pressure To Keep Food Costs Down.
The only risk to synthetic protein formulated into "meats" is if foreign beef can be imported at a cost that makes synthetic meats unprofitable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 11:32:09 GMT -6
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Jan 31, 2020 11:49:56 GMT -6
The "fake" meat" industry is here as long as economics drive it. More properly defined as synthetic meats using cheaper protein sources. It is just simply economics. Good business minds will find ways to make money. Large animal protein is expensive to produce. As beef producers, we are getting raped. We Will Never Get What Our Beef Is Worth. There Is Too Much Pressure To Keep Food Costs Down. The only risk to synthetic protein formulated into "meats" is if foreign beef can be imported at a cost that makes synthetic meats unprofitable. The trend is toward whole foods and away from prepackaged or processed foods. Sure people will try the new fad, I've seen numerous beef producers try it just to see. But it cannot compete in taste. It cannot compete in health. The regulatory capture of the beef processors is in the early process of being addressed. The nuts that have welcomed the veggie burger are the same nuts that will use a beyond meat. |
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Post by greybeard on Jan 31, 2020 11:54:11 GMT -6
Burger King (or it's parent Restaurant Brands International Inc, which also owns the Canadian coffee and restaurant chain Tim Hortons and is overseen by Brazilian private equity firm 3G Capital) owns Tim Hortons but as far as I know, the impossible burger is still being sold by BK here in the US.
They have reportedly cut the price on it tho, as sales have evidently slowed some.
How many are being sold in comparison to real beef burgers?
Syracuse, N.Y. -- Burger King is lowering the price, at least temporarily, of the Impossible Whopper as sales of the plant-based burger have slowed at the restaurant chain’s biggest franchise owner -- Syracuse-based Carrols Restaurant Group.
Burger King has added the Impossible Whopper to its limited-time “2 for $6″ menu, where it joins the Crispy Chicken, Spicy Chicken, Big Fish and beef-based Whopper sandwiches. The Impossible Whopper’s previous suggested price was $5.59 a sandwich.
The move comes as Carrols, which owns 1,035 Burger Kings, reports that sales of the Impossible Whopper have fallen slightly.
At a conference in Orlando, Florida, on Jan. 14, Carrols CEO Daniel Accordino said Carrols had been selling an average of 32 of the plant-based burgers a day at each of its restaurants following the Impossible Whopper’s rollout last summer. Since then, sales have dipped to an average of 28 a day at each restaurant, but have stabilized at that level, he said.
By comparison, the company (Carrolls Restaurant Group) sells an average of 234 beef-based Whoppers a day at each of its restaurants, he said.
Carrols has been counting on the Impossible Whopper and upcoming related plant-based offerings to help stop a recent string of losses.
Despite the dip in sales, the franchisee has been pleased with the Impossible Whopper’s success at luring new customers into its restaurants. And though average sales of 28 Impossible Whoppers a day may not sound like much, it translates into a total of nearly 29,000 daily across its chain of more than 1,000 Burger Kings.
The article neglected to mention the total all REAL beef burgers sold at all it's franchise units total.
1,035 Burger Kings, each selling an average of 234 beef burgers means the entire franchise sells on average, 242,190 all REAL beef burgers per day compared to 29,000 fake meat burgers.
It's been several years since BK has sold me anything and probably never will again.
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Post by Nesikep on Jan 31, 2020 12:15:02 GMT -6
I doubt that selling an additional 28 burgers a day is going to fix a loss issue.
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Post by greybeard on Jan 31, 2020 12:21:29 GMT -6
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Post by M-5 on Jan 31, 2020 12:33:12 GMT -6
While at our Corp meeting this week they had some version of healthy so called by meat at supper Monday night but they happened to have this big fire pit and a stack of ribeyes there. And if you have not guessed I had her lay it on the grill for 10sec per side. Didn't even really put lines on it. The other managers that invited me to sit with them were rethinking that choice pretty quick. I can't even imagine wanting to eat something that is not real meat.
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Post by the illustrious potentate on Jan 31, 2020 15:49:49 GMT -6
I refuse to eat anything that's been cooked on the same grill as any of that fake crap. You don't know what adverse health effects might happen yet.
And anyone that says different, I have a bunch of black box medications I can list that the FDA approved as safe before the real test of time used on the masses was performed.
Nope.
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Post by franklinridgefarms on Jan 31, 2020 16:04:53 GMT -6
I hope so too. I can’t remember the article but I recently read that Burger King had dropped the price of their synthetic product due to a downward trend in sales. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 16:12:28 GMT -6
I hope so too. I can’t remember the article but I recently read that Burger King had dropped the price of their synthetic product due to a downward trend in sales. I read that too. I think the article said they averaged 28 synthetic food orders per day per outlet, compared to in the neighbourhood of 300 for real meat. |
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Post by angusrancher on Jan 31, 2020 17:48:53 GMT -6
I wonder if there's any information about the consumers that actually order the fake burgers? Most beef eaters seem pretty level headed and loyal. I wouldn't be surprised if chicken took the biggest hit......but that's just me.
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