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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 20:28:24 GMT -6
I really wouldn't be surprised to see a larger Simmental and Charolais influence on the North American cow herd in the next several years. Both breeds have done a great job of moderating frames and improving calving ease. They make a good cross with British cattle for a feedlot situation. European cattle have an advantage in the feedlot in that if they need to be held a little longer for whatever reason you can actually keep feeding them for awhile after they are fat and continue to get a return on investment, whereas Angus once fat are done and every extra dollar in is a direct loss. At least that's what some feeders have told me. I did use some Red Angus bulls for awhile, and found my weaning weights started to drop off. I do have a concern that if we are not careful we'll all be raising the beef industry version of the Cornish Cross.
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Post by kycowboy on Feb 1, 2020 15:05:46 GMT -6
I have been keeping some of the heifers from some good Charolais cows with a Angus sire. Most of them are a grayish/dirty white colored hide with black noses, dark eye pigment and black hooves. They seem good natured and fertile. Calves grow out well with big big rear ends. The cows seem to hold their condition on less than ideal forage. I think if I was to start over, I would have a Charo bull over Beefmaster cows. I kept several char/angus cross heifers that should calve out next month. We call them smokes, I kept 4 more this year
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Post by franklinridgefarms on Feb 1, 2020 19:50:10 GMT -6
We run mostly commercial Hereford and Angus type cows, and use those same breeds of bulls. Like has already been said we can change to all Angus bulls and get black and BWF calves if need be, which is where I think we are likely headed. All in all though I prefer Hereford cows to Angus in that on average they are calmer and easier to work with. At this point though our cowherd is about half and half of each and a of the BWF cows
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Post by backhoeboogie on Feb 3, 2020 11:55:38 GMT -6
We are currently using predominantly black cows, all with some bramha influence.i have two groups that I run char bulls on for commercial calves and a small group of about twenty with a f1 bramha x Hereford bull, some pure Hereford cows in that group. The heifers will be gone through for replacements. I truly like the char x calves. They grow good on pasture and they sell good. But I consider important to have the option of being able to go black by just changing bulls. That's why you won't find any char in my cowherd. I was running a Wyoming Wind AI char out of Marshall, TX over my brangus cows. The results were great. Local sale barns start you lower. They all start black calves higher. The final check is what mattered to me.
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Post by randy on Feb 6, 2020 6:32:40 GMT -6
I really wouldn't be surprised to see a larger Simmental and Charolais influence on the North American cow herd in the next several years. Both breeds have done a great job of moderating frames and improving calving ease. They make a good cross with British cattle for a feedlot situation. European cattle have an advantage in the feedlot in that if they need to be held a little longer for whatever reason you can actually keep feeding them for awhile after they are fat and continue to get a return on investment, whereas Angus once fat are done and every extra dollar in is a direct loss. At least that's what some feeders have told me. I did use some Red Angus bulls for awhile, and found my weaning weights started to drop off. I do have a concern that if we are not careful we'll all be raising the beef industry version of the Cornish Cross. You can keep any of them on feed longer if you use enough implants.
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