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Post by chuckie on Mar 3, 2020 7:32:16 GMT -6
Here is the mare that I purchased... Her grandsire is Jackie Bee. She has Poco Bueno, Blue Valentine, Grey Badger II, Doc Bar, and so on.... I do like this mare a lot as she looks like the old Quarter Horse. She is a 10 year old and has had 2 colts.
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Post by chuckie on Mar 3, 2020 7:44:20 GMT -6
This is the photo that they posted of the mare. I liked what I saw, but did not like the fact that her front and back feet were so close together. When I drove down to see her, she does not stand this way as she stands square. She is a sweetheart, and quick as a cat! She looks so much like the first horse that I ever owned, "Jigger."
What I wish I could change about her, is her size. She is 14 hands tall, and I like a taller horse.
It will not quit raining here and is so muddy, that I want to ride her the first time when the ground is a bit firmer. Still wet, but not like Owl sh!+!
Funny how she does not trust a new person. She is skittish around the head and face, but once she gets to know you, she will let you touch her anywhere.
The first horse I owned, Jigger, would take advantage of a new rider. The first thing he would do was to put his head down and start grazing. He knew that was a no-no. But he was testing. Then when the new rider would kick him slightly to make him get his head up, he would lunge and kick. He was hilarious, but I would have to warn a new rider not to let him get his head down from the beginning.
But with an experienced rider, I would just let it happen. I remember telling an older man that he would try him up to see where they stood; when he got on him, he spurred him out and then Jigger knew that he was not dealing with a green rider. Such a very smart horse he was. He was half Quarter Horse and half Mustang. The picture above looks so much like him that It could pass for him easily.
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Post by chuckie on Mar 3, 2020 7:45:01 GMT -6
If anyone else has a horse, I would love to see and hear about your horse.
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Post by okie on Mar 3, 2020 8:26:14 GMT -6
That's a great pedigree. I've had a bunch of poco buenos and they are fun horses. Every one of them had a huge personality. They are by far the smartest horses I've ever dealt with and every one of them had their own specific quirk. The jackie bee should help quite a bit in keeping her babies good natured. The blue valentine can go either way. I've seen quite a few that were really good minded but some of them can really favor hancock.
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Post by chuckie on Mar 3, 2020 20:25:15 GMT -6
Okie, I watched a video on Youtube called "Cutting Horse Legends" It had videos from the 50's and 60's of Poco Bueno. They told a really good story of Poco Bueno in cutting competition. They said the cow fell in front of P.B. and he thought the cow was going to crawl under him, so he got down on his knees to block the cow. They said the crowd gave him a standing ovation when he did that.
I have always liked Poco Bueno too.
It is a really good video. I was so surprised to see Joe Reed's knees. It is well worth the watch. I love the old time announcers on the video. Here it is....
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Post by bootjackbulls on Mar 4, 2020 9:07:48 GMT -6
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Post by chuckie on Mar 4, 2020 17:52:01 GMT -6
bootjackbulls, that is one stout made horse. He is a beauty!! I love the real stocky made horses and he has such a long hip too. He has huge forearms too. Such a nice one!!
That little girl is having a good time too. I bet he knows when she is on his back and takes it easy with her. The picture where she is on the ground, he looks real nice.
I can see why you don't want to think about replacing him!!
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Post by chuckie on Mar 4, 2020 18:08:56 GMT -6
Here is a cutting horse stallion that I really like not far from me.
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Post by chuckie on Mar 5, 2020 7:18:54 GMT -6
Bootjackbulls, the yearling I purchased goes back to Yellow Jacket as well. I hope that he comes to be as good of a horse to me as you describe your horse is to you. Here is a picture of Yellow Jacket. He looks so tall. I tried to find more history about Yellow Jacket, but I can find that he was a race horse and was born in 1907 or 1908.
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Post by bootjackbulls on Mar 5, 2020 9:26:32 GMT -6
Chuckie, Yellow Jacket was reportedly mean as hell.... and twice as fast. I'm fairly certain he is in one of the Western Horsemens' "Legends" books. If you haven't ever checked them out, you should. I get the feeling you will enjoy them. My gelding Outlaw, looks like a shorter version of YJ. My gelding's dam was a classic YJ. She was mean. She tested you every time you threw a leg over her. She was pretty, a mile long red dun with a pretty head, huge hip and perfect legs. And she was fast. I mean, the kind of fast where your eyes dry out because the tears have been wind whipped right out of them. When we were kids, my brother and I would race our favorite mares at least once a week. His favorite at the time was that dun YJ mare. We had a field driveway about 2 miles long, fairly flat and pure sand. We would flat race from a dead start, to the mile mark....bareback with snaffles on our mares (so dumb, but my god, it was fun!). That dun YJ mare beat EVERY single animal we put against her, no matter how it was bred, built or trained. She would stretch out so hard, her top line dropped down 6 inches and her ears disappeared into her neck. It also took her another 1/2 mile to stop. She was an impressive mare, to say the least.
It's funny, but my Outlaw is just a bit mean too. What you don't see in the pictures I posted is that he will crow hop at least one time every time I kick him into a lope. You also don't see that when he's eating grain, be it out of a pan or a bunk, he lifts his left foot off the ground and tucks it up against his elbow, like he wants to paw but knows he will get smacked with a bucket if he does lol. You also don't see that he is capable of opening gates, and when he goes for an adventure likes to destroy my lawn during the night. He also loves to bait my dogs to kick the shyte out of them. Having said all that, he is still one of the 5 best horses I have ever rode!
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Post by chuckie on Mar 5, 2020 11:17:04 GMT -6
A horse with a brain! I love a horse that has a brain of an intelligent dog. I know there are those that are not as smart, but the ones that are, really do test us. I like hearing how he was able to open gates. Jigger used to do the same thing. You have to outsmart them. Some people say they wouldn't have a horse like that. We had one of those old time gaps that went into the barn lot. We had the wire gap where there was a loop on the top and the bottom to hold the wooden pole in that stretched it tight. Jigger would take his foot and mash down the bottom wire and flip the pole out. For a while, I thought my younger brother was half way putting the gap up, and the horses were pushing through it. I would get really angry about his lack of concern for the horses. Then one day I saw Jigger at the gap, messing with the wire. I sat in the window and watched him let hisself out into the yard. Grrrrr! I had to eat crow!!
When I saw the picture of Yellow Jacket, I thought he looked liked your horse a lot. He has the same shaped hip and body. He definitely passed on his traits to your boy.
I notice that the colt I have is sticking his head out of the top of the door, and continually messes with the latch. I am not sure if he knows what it is yet. I put them up at night since he is so young, and I want them to both eat what I give them. Right at lunch, I let them out to stay outside till 5:00, then will feed them again. I will be glad when the mud goes away so I can put up the fence up. At that point when the pasture starts coming up, I will leave them out all the time except for when I feed them. I just do not like to stall horses unless there is a reason to.
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Post by okie on Mar 5, 2020 12:14:26 GMT -6
Chuckie if you like a horse with brains, stick with the poco buenos. I had one that would untie any horse within reach. He never untied himself in the five or so years that I owned him. His half brother would untie himself no matter what knot you used and then just stand there and wait for you to come see it and then he'd act like he was going to take off when you got close (but never did) I had one, one of the sweetest little mares I've ever owned, that would pin her ears and make a face at cowboys. She'd stand there and act fine and then when they least expected it she'd do it and make them jump. I owned her from weaning until ten and she never bit anyone. My kids learned how to ride on her. as soon as she did it and got the reaction she wanted she'd work her lips like "that was fun". If they didn't react she never did it to them again. I had one that would open gates. I had one that I could step off of and push cattle on foot and he'd work by himself just as well as if I was on him.
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Post by okie on Mar 5, 2020 12:22:30 GMT -6
Bootjackbulls, I've put a lot of miles on a few appy's. I liked everything about them except them being lame within an hour of losing a shoe(and I know they're not all like that.) There were two in particular that I'd have paid a bunch of money for if I'd have thought they were for sale. Both were go anywhere(and I mean anywhere, It was rough country) do anything ranch horses that anyone and their kids could ride.
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Post by chuckie on Mar 5, 2020 19:54:59 GMT -6
I owned an Appaloosa mare. She was 16 hands tall and as calm as they come. From the first time I rode her, I could get close to any kind of farm equipment such as combines and cotton pickers. She was a real sweetheart!!
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Post by chuckie on Mar 9, 2020 7:15:30 GMT -6
A coming year old colt is like having school aged kids in a class and you are the substitute teacher. What ever is in his mind, he will try. Right now I have to handle him in a way that will not be overly harsh, but something he will remember when he tries to bite hard, or when he throws his back leg out while I am trying to pick it up.
He has shown me his laid back ears twice, and each time he got hit with a bucket once for each try. It really rattles his cage, but he is trying to run the show. But he will not succeed. The noise the bucket makes is much worse than the pain he feels when I immediately strike back on dangerous issues of angry biting or kicking. I am getting my point across.
He only thrashes about when I pick up his back legs. When he does that, I make him circle the stall about 8 times and try again. When I nicely try to pick up his hind leg again; if he does it again, then 8 more circles in the stall with my rope spinning to threaten him. Then Bingo!! He had rather me pick up his leg than for me to do the quick spin in the stall.
He is between 14 and 15 hands with his birthday being on April 2nd of 2020. I need to get all of his bad habits smoothed down before he reaches 16 hands or so. Soon as possible that is!!
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