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Post by 3LT Farms on Jul 7, 2019 5:55:20 GMT -6
At what age and circumstances do you start looking to replace a bull? What all goes into your decision to replace one?
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Post by randy on Jul 7, 2019 6:04:56 GMT -6
When i have to many replacement heifers comming in to the herd sired by him. Or sometime opportunity knocks and i get the chance at one that fits and takes me in a direction i want to go.
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Post by tcranch on Jul 7, 2019 6:13:40 GMT -6
Like Randy, when his daughters have the potential to get bred by him if I don't rotate/manage properly. That said, I have the WORST luck with bulls including a broken penis, warts on his penis, stifle injury, not passing his BSE and my most recent - brand new bull got struck by lightning.
Edit to add: Bad attitude!! Had one bull that tried to take out my husband when we were spraying for flies. He was pretty much trapped in a corner so sprayed that bull directly in the eyes with Fly Ban, long enough for him to escape. Sold him the next week to a large operation in OK that didn't care about attitude because they do everything on horseback & with dogs - still have him.
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Post by 1982vett on Jul 7, 2019 6:15:30 GMT -6
Seems for me it’s injuries from fighting that cull them.
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Post by 3LT Farms on Jul 7, 2019 6:16:18 GMT -6
Like Randy, when his daughters have the potential to get bred by him if I don't rotate/manage properly. That said, I have the WORST luck with bulls including a broken penis, warts on his penis, stifle injury, not passing his BSE and my most recent - brand new bull got struck by lightning. That's a run of bad luck there, hope that changes for you. |
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Post by randy on Jul 7, 2019 6:49:04 GMT -6
Smaller the herd size the harder it is to keep one to long if you retain your own replacements. This year we split the cows up and are using two bulls. We wanted more calves from the bull we had but had the chance to buy another bull that would line up some pedigrees in a direction we want to move. We will move the older bull out this fall and the second bull will take over next spring.
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Post by Jake on Jul 7, 2019 8:50:31 GMT -6
3-8 years depending on how much we like them, how easy they are to handle and how they survive life 300 days a year with a bunch of other bulls. Seems like ages 3-5 is when injuries get them and 5+ is when they develop the understanding that they really don’t have to do what you want them to do.
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Post by ufbeef on Jul 7, 2019 10:10:28 GMT -6
Semen check, dont care how old they are. As long as they are sound, working and not shooting blanks.
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Post by 11111 on Jul 7, 2019 10:38:51 GMT -6
Our oldest is a 2014 model. We tend to buy 2 every year and run anywhere from 9-11 depending on how we have cows grouped.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 19:31:02 GMT -6
I try to get rid of them by the time they are 4 or 5. As they get older they become more and more likely to hole up under a tree and not come in in the fall.
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Post by ebenezer on Jul 7, 2019 19:48:37 GMT -6
Some folks come looking for an older bull at times. Otherwise they go due to health or BSE maybe up to 8 or 10 YO depending on how daughters are doing. By about 8 YO I begin to wonder if collecting the bull would be worth it but have never pulled that trigger as sons usually are around.
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Post by okie on Jul 7, 2019 20:01:56 GMT -6
3-8 years depending on how much we like them, how easy they are to handle and how they survive life 300 days a year with a bunch of other bulls. Seems like ages 3-5 is when injuries get them and 5+ is when they develop the understanding that they really don’t have to do what you want them to do. Yep. About the time they get old enough to figure out they're top dog it's time for them to go. Otherwise they start tearing things up. You can't really MAKE them do anything. I used to rope one back leg and take it away from them every time they tried to fight or get away and that worked fairly well but if you sore them up they're hamburger. |
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Post by Jake on Jul 7, 2019 20:04:40 GMT -6
3-8 years depending on how much we like them, how easy they are to handle and how they survive life 300 days a year with a bunch of other bulls. Seems like ages 3-5 is when injuries get them and 5+ is when they develop the understanding that they really don’t have to do what you want them to do. Yep. About the time they get old enough to figure out they're top dog it's time for them to go. Otherwise they start tearing things up. You can't really MAKE them do anything. I used to rope one back leg and take it away from them every time they tried to fight or get away and that worked fairly well but if you sore them up they're hamburger. Yup at some point they become tree diving mofos |
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Post by elkwc on Jul 8, 2019 9:29:20 GMT -6
Our goal is to jeep until 8-10 years of age. Will sell an 9 y/0 this fall. It seems with the current bloodlines in the Angus and Hereford breeds it is less likely a bull will last that long. Longtivity has been lost.
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Post by franklinridgefarms on Jul 8, 2019 13:06:37 GMT -6
Our goal is to jeep until 8-10 years of age. Will sell an 9 y/0 this fall. It seems with the current bloodlines in the Angus and Hereford breeds it is less likely a bull will last that long. Longtivity has been lost. Unfortunately, that's about right, very few bulls would make it that long. We are flying if we get much past 3 years out of one. |
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