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Post by jehosofat on Jul 15, 2019 20:00:04 GMT -6
If you were gonna buy a new one, which one would you buy?
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Post by bulltrader on Jul 15, 2019 20:01:46 GMT -6
I'm interested also
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Post by hook on Jul 15, 2019 20:08:16 GMT -6
Me...for as little as I would need one id go with the red ryder pump one like i have. The co2 ones are prone to weird shots after the first one because of co2 use. The .22 ones ive read where they can be too strong on the smaller darts and send one right through. Plus, its another supply to buy (the .22 blanks)
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Post by jehosofat on Jul 15, 2019 20:22:33 GMT -6
Me...for as little as I would need one id go with the red ryder pump one like i have. The co2 ones are prone to weird shots after the first one because of co2 use. The .22 ones ive read where they can be too strong on the smaller darts and send one right through. Plus, its another supply to buy (the .22 blanks) Got a link to yours?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 20:23:56 GMT -6
How much medicine can you deliver with one of these pneumatic / .22 type guns? Only ones I've seen advertised were pretty low dosage. 10cc Oh, kinda what I thought. That's why I ended up with the Medidart, it holds 30cc so a lot handier for cows and bulls.
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Post by jedstivers on Jul 15, 2019 20:47:20 GMT -6
I should have clarified. Mine uses CO2 to shoot the dart. And then a .22 blank in the dart to inject the meds upon impact. I think some use a .22 blank to shoot the dart as well which if I am understanding correctly is the way yours works. Yep, the blank fires the dart. Nothing else involved. Silver mine delivers 10ml, I can get 5ml darts but they cost the same. I keep a few of them is all.
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Post by hook on Jul 16, 2019 5:30:25 GMT -6
Me...for as little as I would need one id go with the red ryder pump one like i have. The co2 ones are prone to weird shots after the first one because of co2 use. The .22 ones ive read where they can be too strong on the smaller darts and send one right through. Plus, its another supply to buy (the .22 blanks) Got a link to yours? www.animal-care.com/product/pneu-dart-model-178b/
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Post by farmerjan on Jul 16, 2019 6:36:59 GMT -6
We use the pump gun also. Meaning one less thing to buy (no blanks or co2). They work pretty good when there are no handling facilities like several of our rented pastures. Bought it at our local co-op. About 350.00 thereabouts.
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Post by creekdrive on Jul 16, 2019 13:05:18 GMT -6
Oh, kinda what I thought. That's why I ended up with the Medidart, it holds 30cc so a lot handier for cows and bulls. Silver - which version of the medidart do you have? We tried using the crossbow version last summer. We were trying to use it on a fairly small calf (300lbs or less). After wasting a bunch on the ground we finally gave up and just walked the whole herd a mile to the nearest corrals. The guy we borrowed it from had no problems using it on a bull and couple of cows after we used it. Was the small calf hide just to thin to hold that large of a dart in long enough to get the meds? Or was there something else we were doing wrong? Seemed like it wouldn't stick in the hide at all.
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Post by JMJ on Jul 16, 2019 15:09:08 GMT -6
How much medicine can you deliver with one of these pneumatic / .22 type guns? Only ones I've seen advertised were pretty low dosage. I’ve got several different darts. 3cc, 5cc, 10cc, 15cc, and 20cc. With the majority of antibiotics excluding LA 2-300 and penicillin 10-12 cc is usually more than adequate. And since I use it mostly for calves the 5cc and 10cc darts get used the most. If I’m trying to tranquilize a wild cow for someone I use the disposable darts because your likely to lose it, especially in the woods. If I’m in the pasture I use the reusable darts. For any unused space in the dart just fill with bottled water. Some are disposable and some are reusable. I’ve never had any problems with erratic shots due to CO2. After it’s sat for a while I always dry fire it about three times to make sure the pressure is right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 21:50:45 GMT -6
Oh, kinda what I thought. That's why I ended up with the Medidart, it holds 30cc so a lot handier for cows and bulls. Silver - which version of the medidart do you have? We tried using the crossbow version last summer. We were trying to use it on a fairly small calf (300lbs or less). After wasting a bunch on the ground we finally gave up and just walked the whole herd a mile to the nearest corrals. The guy we borrowed it from had no problems using it on a bull and couple of cows after we used it. Was the small calf hide just to thin to hold that large of a dart in long enough to get the meds? Or was there something else we were doing wrong? Seemed like it wouldn't stick in the hide at all. It's the crossbow version. I use it on calves as the situations dictate. With a small dose for a calf it injects the meds and comes out of the hide so quickly you'd think you'd missed. I did modify it by mounting a fishing reel to it because I find on bulls and older cows the dart does not want to release from the hide once the injection was complete. This way once it's done it's job I can hit the brakes and pull the dart and avoid following the animal all over creation waiting to get my precious back. edit: air pressure does make a difference. With smaller payloads for calves I find 2 pumps of air is plenty. If you use too much air it may bounce out.
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Post by hook on Jul 17, 2019 5:23:05 GMT -6
I found that one oump for every cc of the darts capacity is about dead on. 10 cc is 10 pumps, 8 is 8 pumps etc
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Post by creekdrive on Jul 17, 2019 19:41:47 GMT -6
It's the crossbow version. I use it on calves as the situations dictate. With a small dose for a calf it injects the meds and comes out of the hide so quickly you'd think you'd missed. I did modify it by mounting a fishing reel to it because I find on bulls and older cows the dart does not want to release from the hide once the injection was complete. This way once it's done it's job I can hit the brakes and pull the dart and avoid following the animal all over creation waiting to get my precious back. edit: air pressure does make a difference. With smaller payloads for calves I find 2 pumps of air is plenty. If you use too much air it may bounce out. Thanks - we probably should've tried to use draxxin. We were trying to use Bio and i know that not all of the meds came out in time as we could see it squirting out after it fell to the ground. Too much air could have been the problem as well. I don't remember for sure how many pumps we tried. I thought we followed the instructions that came with it fairly close but obviously were doing something wrong. Good idea on the fishing reel! That would sure be handier than waiting around for it to fall out and then finding it in the grass.
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