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Post by gcreek on Jan 20, 2020 20:42:19 GMT -6
Danny Skeels has some good ones for sure Silver.
Fleckveih cattle came from Central Europe and are a dual purpose animal derived from “local” cattle crossed with Simmental. Best way to add Simmental and thickness at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 21:17:45 GMT -6
From the Canadian Simmental Association: Technically, the Simmental designation includes several breeds in Europe. The name is given specifically to the breed in Switzerland, while in Germany and Austria it is known as Fleckvieh, and in France as Pie Rouge. The Pie Rouge includes three separate herd book registries namely Abondance, Montbeliard and Pie Rouge de l'Est. In Canada the breed is known as Simmental.
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Post by okie on Jan 20, 2020 21:26:40 GMT -6
I believe so. I don't want to give anyone the impression I own this bull, only that "If I had to use one bull" as per the thread title lol I should know this but I am uncertain. I know the ASA has an open herd book. You can register percentage Simmentals, Purebred Simmentals and Fullblood Simmentals. Fleckvieh are not the same as the orginal Fullblood Simmental. Isn't that correct? The ASA registers Fleckvieh. But they are not the original Simmental that came from Switzerland. Correct this if it is wrong. Wrong. Flecks are the fullblood sims.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 21:38:19 GMT -6
I should know this but I am uncertain. I know the ASA has an open herd book. You can register percentage Simmentals, Purebred Simmentals and Fullblood Simmentals. Fleckvieh are not the same as the orginal Fullblood Simmental. Isn't that correct? The ASA registers Fleckvieh. But they are not the original Simmental that came from Switzerland. Correct this if it is wrong. Wrong. Flecks are the fullblood sims. That is incorrect. Flecks are a strain of fullblood Simmental cattle.
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Post by brightraven on Jan 21, 2020 5:09:15 GMT -6
Wrong. Flecks are the fullblood sims. That is incorrect. Flecks are a strain of fullblood Simmental cattle. Thanks Is the bull you pictured of the Fleckvieh strain or is it a Modern Fullblood Simmental. Also, does Canada have its own Simmental Association?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 8:34:11 GMT -6
That is incorrect. Flecks are a strain of fullblood Simmental cattle. Thanks Is the bull you pictured of the Fleckvieh strain or is it a Modern Fullblood Simmental. Also, does Canada have its own Simmental Association? I would only be assuming to say he's full Fleck, but I think it would be a fairly safe assumption. I don't think the Canadian Simmental Association makes any reference to what strain an animal is, only whether it's percentage PB, or FB. I really don't know much about individual lines, and have only recently become somewhat interested in bloodlines. In my vernacular the bull pictured is just a good looking example of a modern Simmental bull.
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Post by brightraven on Jan 21, 2020 8:49:43 GMT -6
I believe so. I don't want to give anyone the impression I own this bull, only that "If I had to use one bull" as per the thread title lol I should know this but I am uncertain. I know the ASA has an open herd book. You can register percentage Simmentals, Purebred Simmentals and Fullblood Simmentals. Fleckvieh are not the same as the orginal Fullblood Simmental. Isn't that correct? The ASA registers Fleckvieh. But they are not the original Simmental that came from Switzerland. Correct this if it is wrong. Silver he is crossed registered in the ASA as follows. Canadian: 1144447. Cross referenced as 3264308. His EPDS look good. He does add 4 pounds on BW.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 9:18:22 GMT -6
Ron, I can't find what average BW is. I'm wondering what his BW was, but can't seem to find it.
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Post by brightraven on Jan 21, 2020 9:47:15 GMT -6
His ASA registration does not list his birthweight, weaning or yearling weight. I assume that information was not transferred to ASA when he was cross registered.
I dont have access to his Canadian Registration. I can look at some of the birthweights of calves that are registered to him in ASA. Looks like about 25 to 30 calves.
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Post by 76bar on Jan 21, 2020 10:08:12 GMT -6
Not sure if this link will work. If yes you'll need to go to full screen to read the info. It notes the bull is a polled FB Fleckvieh (e.g. Simmental originating from Germany, Austria or Switzerland) and a non diluter plus gives his Bwt, Wwt & Yrlg wts. He's assuredly a handsome hunk.
issuu.com/bohrsonmarketing/docs/canadian_sires_directory_2019_small/45
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Post by brightraven on Jan 21, 2020 10:23:56 GMT -6
Silver here are the BWs of the last 12 calves registered to him in the ASA. There are a total of 30 calves. These give you an idea. 94 80 72 87 119 97 97 111 95 90 85 90
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Post by brightraven on Jan 21, 2020 10:29:50 GMT -6
I found his birthweight. AND THE NUMBER: 104 POUNDS
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 11:32:13 GMT -6
Thanks BR, I just hadn't fumbled onto the right tab yet lol He'd be middle of the pack for his birth weight here, and looks like his calves are born plenty light enough for me.
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Post by 76bar on Jan 21, 2020 11:34:21 GMT -6
BR you obviously didn't read the link I provided or couldn't access it. No need to shout Haven't used but a couple of FB Fleckvieh but sure liked the results.
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Post by brightraven on Jan 21, 2020 11:38:31 GMT -6
BR you obviously didn't read the link I provided or couldn't access it. No need to shout Haven't used but a couple of FB Fleckvieh but sure liked the results. I didn't. I was onto that before I saw your post. Lol
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