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Post by bulltrader on Dec 1, 2019 7:50:44 GMT -6
Once you see the first one it seems the numbers explode. Wasn't many years ago that we had none and now we can run 5 a day.
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Post by Allenw on Dec 1, 2019 9:27:55 GMT -6
Okie, I seen they had opened up a new tier of counties. I don't know if it's a good deal to have bears around or not, doubt if they cause anymore trouble then the occasional mountain lion around here does. I'm sure it's better then having feral hogs.
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Post by bulltrader on Dec 1, 2019 12:19:49 GMT -6
In a way yes it's better than hogs. But they sure don't care to come on your porch and damage everything. Plus they ruin a corn field
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Post by farmerjan on Dec 1, 2019 21:05:15 GMT -6
I test a farm that is in a more mountainous area, and the bears there are a total PITA. They take pictures of them up walking the concrete barriers, where the silage is. Tear the corn fields apart, laying a 1/2 acre or more flat. Then after it is harvested, they will get into the trenches or even tear up the silage that is in bags. This farm gets damage permits every year and they will kill at least a dozen a year. I left there after testing cows one day about noon, and about 2-3 miles down the road, a sow and 2 young cubs came across the road and up the hill into the brush they went.
We have 2 local residents here that we are well aware of. They go on peoples patios in the middle of the day and get into the bird feeders. A friend was taking her bird feeders in every night, and then the bear was trying to get into the log cabin on the property to get them where she was keeping them. One day this bear was just outside the glass doors looking in when she went out into the "sunroom"/closed in porch. As tall as the top of the trellis above the plants and walkways in the patio area. Shook her up a bit. There was a smaller one around last year and they are pretty sure it was her cub from the year before.
I have seen one in the middle of the day go right up through the pasture and the cows just look at it and then go about their business grazing. There were a few calves that actually were running alongside it like they were trying to get it to play.... I stood there with my mouth open just watching them and wondering if one would become a meal. But the bear paid little attention and just kept going.
Yep, I rather the bears than hogs though.... I saw all the damage I wanted when down in the Smokey Mtns years ago. They had fenced areas to keep them out of, to show the actual plants and all that were native in the area. I cannot imagine the damage they do some other places. I have seen videos of the ones that shoot them from helicopters and just marvel of the skill of those shooters. Those darned things can run.
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Post by bulltrader on Dec 1, 2019 21:15:19 GMT -6
I watched them shooting hogs from a helicopter last year in Ok not far from Allenw place. They said they shot 251 that day.
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Post by Allenw on Dec 2, 2019 8:32:21 GMT -6
And probably scattered that many more.
They can shoot a bunch especially with a helicopter they can get on top of them and push them out of hiding. They shoot out of planes too, a little different plane then what you usually see. They must have a lower stall speed.
I really don't know how effective aerial shooting is over all but it makes a few landowners in the immediate area happy.
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Post by dave on Dec 2, 2019 10:32:55 GMT -6
When I was still over on the coast, one late winter / early spring I had 3 cows die over 6-8 weeks. There was a big natural hole down in the cottonwoods where dead cows went to. Just push them off the edge and they roll to the bottom. Fast forward a month or so I was down there moving an electric fence a couple hundred feet from that hole. There in the field was a pile of fresh bear crap big as a garbage can lid. It was full of cow hair. I exited the area. Went back the next day. This time I was armed and had the dog with me. Walked over and looked in that hole. All three cows completely gone. Not even a bone left.
This fall my BIL was deer hunting on the family ranch in south central Washington. He shot a bear that was feeding on a dead cow. It weighed 400 pounds. He said there was another one there which was bigger but he didn't have a clear shot at it. I told him I don't know that I would want to eat a bear who has been feeding on a dead cow. He agreed. Said somebody else wanted the meat so he gave it all to them.
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Post by bulltrader on Dec 2, 2019 16:55:58 GMT -6
They are for sure a scavenger. They seem eat anything. Spring and summer they graze like cows.
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Post by bulltrader on Dec 4, 2019 21:56:17 GMT -6
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Post by smokinm on Dec 6, 2019 5:02:09 GMT -6
Pretty much what we have run so far too. Lots of future generations around it seems. Daddy is bound to be around somewhere tho. Still tickles me to see them and watch them, plus you don’t have to drag those. The camera is easy to carry out the woods.
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Post by bulltrader on Dec 6, 2019 6:50:21 GMT -6
One of the kids shot one they treed on Monday. Ran but didn't tree anything Tuesday. 4 treed but not killed Wednesday, 1 treed but not big enough Thursday.
5" of snow still on the north side.
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Post by bulltrader on Dec 6, 2019 12:09:04 GMT -6
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Post by bulltrader on Dec 6, 2019 19:02:17 GMT -6
Treed one more but no pictures. Trying to catch the dogs off the third one at dark
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Post by bulltrader on Dec 7, 2019 20:47:29 GMT -6
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Post by smokinm on Dec 7, 2019 23:43:02 GMT -6
That’s a nice one Kenny, was he treed or were the dogs walking him. That’s a nice skinning shed. Glad to see some kids in the pictures I hope y’all have some young blood coming. First time in years I didn’t see one the first week. We treed a few cubs or sows with them but nothing that was harvestable. None of them treed close to where I was. We will try it again next week.
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